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    I'd like to catch a break here but I don't really know if I am worried yet.

    Nathaniel had his nine month check up. He is still growing well and since he is spitting up MUCH less (we are talking a 95% improvement) we can work at getting him off the omprezole. He has that crummy eczema patch on his face that is now infected but we have a prescription cream for that and then a regular steroid cream to treat bad spots before they get like that.

    N apparently failed his developmental screening and if he doesn't improve in a month I have to call and have someone come to the house and evaluate him.

    The things that he apparently should be doing but isn't:

    Pushing up to a sitting position.
    Pulling up to a standing position.
    Lifting up arms to be picked up (he does this sometimes)
    Repeating sounds.
    Calling me Mama and DH Dada (he does call DH Dada occasionally)
    Walking unassisted (What? He's 9 months!)

    He army crawls, sits, working on the pincher grasp, babbles, "talks to us", gives hugs, initiates games of peek a boo, laughs when we do, smiles, makes eye contact, follows us around the house...

    Would you all be worried? We still haven't switched pediatricians and maybe she just isn't a good fit. Life has been all sorts of crazy over here lately.
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    I would be a bit worried with the not pushing up to sitting position but, not really anything else. I would probably have a 2nd opinion.

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    i would get a second opinion.


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    I think that these are the PA screening questions but this doctor sent us to a pediatric surgeon that essentially said why are you here? Come back in about four months (which we are doing next month).

    I guess that I could call and have them check him out just to see if I need to be concerned.
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    No, i wouldnt be worried.
    i would just make sure he has plenty of tummy time and practice moving around and sitting up.

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    I wouldn't fail any baby for a speech screening because they didn't call you mama and dada at 9 months. That's crazy. He is babbling consistently, yes? And making a variety of noises? If so, I wouldn't be concerned yet if he isn't repeating you. I can give you lots of info on babbling if you like.

    And walking? That's crazy.

    I would be a bit concerned about not pushing up to sit...that's about all.
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    I would get a second opinion for sure. None of the trio did any of those on time and even our specialist weren't concerned. I was surprised at the large age range there actually is for th timeline to meet developmental guidelines.
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    He is working on climbing on to things from his belly. If we had stairs he could probably climb a few. He just mastered sitting a few weeks ago so hopefully the pushing to sit will come soon. He turns or looks to find you when you call his name.

    He makes D, M, B coupled usually with A but he also does Eh sounds for sure but I have not paid close attention. I'll start doing that now.

    My first didn't crawl until 9 months and didn't walk until 15 months but my second crawled at 6 months and walked at 11 months. Since those two had such a wide range I didn't even think to be concerned about N. He's been army crawling since seven months and has really mastered it - he is quick.
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    I agree with the others, the pushing up into a seated position is the only thing that made me go "hm." But, is he a bigger baby? If he's got more chub to lug, then that could be a factor. I think it is a milestone that is generally achieved around 6 months, but as with all milestones ... each baby hits them at different times. My nearly 3 year old still doesn't know all of his colors ... but he can count to 20 and knows all of his letters.

    Do Nathaniel's siblings frequently help him into a sitting position? Any "delay" on the part of a baby with older siblings always makes me question if the siblings are doing that "delayed" activity for the baby. ;)

    I'd probably give it another month or two before I got terribly worried about the sitting up, anyway.

    This is a PERFECT example of why I don't like to go to the pediatrician. I think this one is not a good fit, and you should look elsewhere.
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    That list reads like something from the What to Expect..." series. Walking unassisted is ridiculous. Based on what you said he IS doing, he sounds great! I really wouldn't be worried. He sounds like a normal baby to me!

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    That sounds like a Super Baby list! I would not worry at this time. Ok well that isn't true. I would worry because that is what I do SHOULD you worry? No way based on that list. I would get a 2nd opinion and/or re-evaluate at 12 months.
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    my kids varied with this stuff too...
    Pushing up to a sitting position.
    Q=7mo V=8mo
    Pulling up to a standing position.
    Q=8mo V=11mo
    Lifting up arms to be picked up (he does this sometimes)
    Q=5mo V=8mo
    Repeating sounds.
    Q=6mo V-7mo
    Calling me Mama and DH Dada (he does call DH Dada occasionally)
    Q=9mo V=10mo
    Walking unassisted (What? He's 9 months!)
    Q=9.5mo V=12mo

    i wouldn't worry yet. just work on stuff with him and watch him grow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzmom View Post
    That list reads like something from the What to Expect..." series. Walking unassisted is ridiculous. Based on what you said he IS doing, he sounds great! I really wouldn't be worried. He sounds like a normal baby to me!
    I totally second this. As others have said, the only one I would be even mildly concerned about it the sitting up.
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    Thanks ladies. I will wait a month and if things aren't better I'll call EI and have him evaluated. Since we have an HMO I can only switch doctors once a month. May is coming up so maybe I'll actually get that done before then. Ugh. PPOs are so much nicer in that regard. We have to go HMO wise for me, though.

    I usually put him down in a seated position. Clearly if he cries he has me and two big siblings to help him out. They will bring him toys or move things out of his way. Just yesterday he started to try to pull up to standing from a seated position but he falls over before he gets there.

    My Chicago doctor was rated in the top 50 in the Chicago area. She was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more laid back than this.
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    I, too, would not be overly concerned at this point. However, requesting services through EI is very easy and free. Plus, getting an eval in your home is very easy. They sometimes do take a while to get out to you, though. You could call and get an application. If things don't improve, you will have all your paperwork and everything ready to go. I think ours took 2-4 months after we initially called to get evaluated and then regular therapy started.

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    I agree with the others that that list is a little ridiculous. I don't think I know anyone personally whose baby walked at 9 months... I'd spend a little extra time working on the sitting up, but I don't think it's something to worry over. I do understand how hard it is not to over analyze and worry though. I'd check into a different pedi for sure.
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    Oh please. I would totally blow that off. Your baby sounds lovely.

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    I would not worry and I would likely look around for another pedi I would not like this one
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    I agree with the others. The only one I would watch is the sitting one.
    My DD walked at 12 months, her brother at 16 months. Both are in the normal range. I only know of one child who walked unassisted at 9 months.

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    I agree with the others, the only thing I'd be mildly concerned about is the sitting up. But all babies are different and all do things on their own time. DS walked unassisted at 13 months, but now at nearly 19 months doesnt say any words at all, not even mama or dada. At 19 months, the speech is a concern and he's just had his evaluation with EI for that, but at 9 months, heck no!
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    Thank you everyone. I'm just going to take a deep breath and find a new pediatrician. Especially since N just mastered sitting really well a few weeks ago, I am sure that he will push up to sitting soon....or maybe not. He is more interested in climbing right now.
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    Kids with bad GERD do their gross motor stuff differently, because they are perpetually tryng to not push on their stomach. You want to look at his skills, ie. does he have trunk strength, not whether he is doing a specific thing. I do think you need a new pediatrician! (also, about 1/2 of my patients "fail" their developmental screening at 9 months old. There is just so much variability in what is normal at that age. I surely do NOT refer them all, just watch critically.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapir View Post
    Kids with bad GERD do their gross motor stuff differently, because they are perpetually tryng to not push on their stomach. You want to look at his skills, ie. does he have trunk strength, not whether he is doing a specific thing. I do think you need a new pediatrician! (also, about 1/2 of my patients "fail" their developmental screening at 9 months old. There is just so much variability in what is normal at that age. I surely do NOT refer them all, just watch critically.)
    Thank you for pointing this out to me. It has only been recently that his spitting up has greatly decreased and that really does correspond to when he started army crawling and sitting up. Before that he would scream if he was on his belly. I think that he has good trunk strength - when I carry him around he holds his torso upright, can twist around to look at things that catch his interest as we walk. He sits upright in highchairs now, too, without leaning on the back.

    Now that I think about it, the pediatrician didn't really check out any of his skills except to try to get him to walk to me. I thought that was pretty silly considering that she had already determined that he failed his developmental screening based on my responses. She didn't verify that he could sit, reach for things, try to follow voices, etc.
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    she tried to get him to walk to you? Is he really big? Could she have thought he was older? But not walking at a year isnt even a problem so that doesnt make sense either...How strange. The NP at my pediatricians office gave me a very hard time about not having started solids yet when she was in for her 4m appt, her corrected age was 3m. She said very snottily "Well when DO you think you will start feeding her solids?" when i said i didnt think she was ready. When we came back at 6m and saw someone else i started to get defensive about not having started solids and she said she wouldnt have expected me to since she really was only 5m corrected. Maybe your DR was just having a brain fart?

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    All his measurements are very average (50 - 60th percentiles) so he looks and acts like a nine month old. All over his paperwork it says that he is nine months old.

    She is also really pushy about solids. She says that he should only be eating three times a day. Period. And that I would only have to push it hard for four days before he would eat more solids (ie: refuse to let him nurse, hold him off until breakfast/lunch/dinner and then stuff him with solids followed by nursing) Not only is he a GERD baby so very full tummies hurt, I personally eat 4 to 6 times each and every day. It is generally a healthier way to eat, too.

    I've tried to change the kids pediatrician online several times and keep getting error messages. I have to call again.
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    I generally dislike pushy doctors. There's no "right way" to do this parenting gig, so pushing any personal belief onto someone else just grates my nerves. You can share your professional opinion, that's why we're there, but to be pushy is just unacceptable to me.
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    Hmmmm... my dislike for this pedi is getting stronger....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tanyachap View Post
    Hmmmm... my dislike for this pedi is getting stronger....
    Ha! Mine, too. It is so hard being new to an area and leaving a well loved doctor behind. We have a recommendation from someone but she isn't even thrilled with him so....I guess we might be changing doctors just to change again.
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    omg that is freaking nuts...NUTS. i just took Nora to the pediatrician a couple weeks ago. here is where she is developmentally...

    she is sitting unassisted, rolling from back to belly, pushing up completely, pushes herself backwards, does "soo big", can clap when asked, says mama, and dada(but immitating the words, not because she wants me)...gives kisses and leans in for hugs, feeds herself with hands, can drink from sippy, but does not hold bottle.

    my pediatrician said she is right on target and things look great. Nathanial is army crawling...that's more than Nora.

    your pediatrician needs to take a step back, what they are telling you is NUTS.

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    The crazy thing is that this is all over his chart now...

    This is my third child. I am just glad that I am not a first time mom being swayed much by all this. And I have you wonderful ladies to back up what I am thinking, too.
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