Chit Chat....

[Sakura]

We are lucky we have a resource non profit here, started by a great friend from church, she houses a big homeschool curriculum library, so its awesome I can go check stuff like this out. She has sonlight listed as one of the things housed.... so I just need to see if its the kinder stuff...


Whens Nathans bday? Is he old enough for kinder in the fall? Tristyn technically wouldn't be till 2012 (feb bday she's 4 this month), and I wouldn't send her to a traditional classroom right now, but she is defiantly ahead of preschool...

DS turned 4 this past December, so he wouldn't be old enough this fall. But he's just learning to read 3 letter words and is doing great with the blend ladder.

That's awesome that you can go check it out first. Woot! But they do have a good guarantee, which is nice.

[pants]

I think I'm 95% settled on the curriculum I'm going to use next year with ds. Whew! We're going to do the Sonlight P4/5 with kindergarten readers and language arts. I'm really really excited about it. (We've been doing My Father's World kindergarten and I'm not super impressed. It's decent, but I'm fairly bored and would like a little more for ds.)

COOL!!!! I am almost settled on a curric too. I'll be using BJU's curriculum. They have a school called "Bethany Academy" that if I enroll my kids annually they will send a nationally certified high school diploma. So I was thinking about enrolling them once they hit highschool for this....But for now i'll probably just pick through some of the curric and build my own. At least for K4/5 and 1st grade.

I can get a ton of the BJU used curric locally at a local homeschool store that sells used curriculum's. So i'll be heading that way in a few years.

Good luck and keep us posted how it's going!!

[Sakura]

COOL!!!! I am almost settled on a curric too. I'll be using BJU's curriculum. They have a school called "Bethany Academy" that if I enroll my kids annually they will send a nationally certified high school diploma. So I was thinking about enrolling them once they hit highschool for this....But for now i'll probably just pick through some of the curric and build my own. At least for K4/5 and 1st grade.

I can get a ton of the BJU used curric locally at a local homeschool store that sells used curriculum's. So i'll be heading that way in a few years.

Good luck and keep us posted how it's going!!

Awesome!

Is it crazy that I'm super excited about this? Even now I love reading and learning and I'm hoping to pass that on to my kids. (And I think it's working because they both bring us books frequently for us to read to them. Love it!)

[Fallenstar80]

I haven't even begun to really research curriculum yet. I KNOW I have a few years, but Alex knows his letters and is learning his numbers. I know he is going to want to start doing other stuff soon. That is how I was when little.

[Sakura]

Just waiting for AF to show up. Obviously this isn't a normal cycle and I know it may take a while for af to show, but today's the day she would be due. I hate waiting.

[Fallenstar80]

Come on AF!

[Fallenstar80]

Alex tried to help give Timmy a bath!!!! It was wet and messy, but we all had fun...except for Timmy!

[Sakura]

Alex tried to help give Timmy a bath!!!! It was wet and messy, but we all had fun...except for Timmy!

[caligirl07]

Just waiting for AF to show up. Obviously this isn't a normal cycle and I know it may take a while for af to show, but today's the day she would be due. I hate waiting.

Ugg hate waiting, hope she shows soon!

Alex tried to help give Timmy a bath!!!! It was wet and messy, but we all had fun...except for Timmy!

Awww, how sweet!

[KC's wifey]

girls! I haven't been in here much lately. Don't have much to say I guess.

But I had to laugh and share: The ferret got a hold of our box of spermicide applicators. She hid a bunch of them under the couch. Hmmmm... Sabotage?

[pants]

Just waiting for AF to show up. Obviously this isn't a normal cycle and I know it may take a while for af to show, but today's the day she would be due. I hate waiting.

This is the one time I would say COME ON AF!!!!!!! The rest of the times I would want her to stay far away. LOL

Alex tried to help give Timmy a bath!!!! It was wet and messy, but we all had fun...except for Timmy!

Sounds like lots of fun!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fallenstar80]

girls! I haven't been in here much lately. Don't have much to say I guess.

But I had to laugh and share: The ferret got a hold of our box of spermicide applicators. She hid a bunch of them under the couch. Hmmmm... Sabotage?

[Sakura]

But I had to laugh and share: The ferret got a hold of our box of spermicide applicators. She hid a bunch of them under the couch. Hmmmm... Sabotage?

[mrsbabyhead]

girls! I haven't been in here much lately. Don't have much to say I guess.

But I had to laugh and share: The ferret got a hold of our box of spermicide applicators. She hid a bunch of them under the couch. Hmmmm... Sabotage?

Oh my goodness, I have a terrible headache and it hurts to laugh, but this really cracked me up!!

[pants]

Polly!!! That's so funny!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!! We miss you.

[pants]

I just had to share...I hit 24 weeks today. The medical communities definition of *viability* outside the womb....Yes I clarify outside the womb because the definition has an inherit meaning that the baby IS VIABLE but only in the womb, the best life support that flawed men can't duplicate yet...which means the baby is living already......It's one of the loopholes in the RVW law. Basically if man was smart enough to duplicate a mothers womb at 2,8,12, say 16 weeks then the baby would be deemed *viable* by the medical community. But because MAN can't create a womb like environment before 24 weeks then abortion is ok.

[caligirl07]

I just had to share...I hit 24 weeks today. The medical communities definition of *viability* outside the womb....Yes I clarify outside the womb because the definition has an inherit meaning that the baby IS VIABLE but only in the womb, the best life support that flawed men can't duplicate yet...which means the baby is living already......It's one of the loopholes in the RVW law. Basically if man was smart enough to duplicate a mothers womb at 2,8,12, say 16 weeks then the baby would be deemed *viable* by the medical community. But because MAN can't create a womb like environment before 24 weeks then abortion is ok.

Yay!!! Such a huge relief to get to that mark!!! Grow baby grow!

[Consensus]

Polly -
Brenda - yay for viability and thanks for the reminder. Such a fallen world we live in. I was thinking about this a lot with my recent chemical pregnancy too.

Yesterday I got pulled over while driving to our church to pay for my ticket for our church's 5th birthday celebration. I had set the cruise control for 2 mph below 10 mph above the posted speed limit (supposedly the cutoff for getting pulled over. Does this make sense? I was going 58 in a 50). I live about 30 miles from civilization and the road is pretty rural, not a lot of traffic, intersections or businesses on the street. Apparently our speedometer is off, because I was clocked going 62. I didn't have my license because I had left it in my car which DH took. In the past when I got pulled over, I have often tried to talk my way out of it and always got a ticket. It made me think about how I was speeding just fast enough so that I wouldn't get caught, and how in the past I would fight when caught in the act of doing something wrong. This time I was embarrassed for speeding with my child in the car, and when I couldn't find my license I gave him the number I have memorized and didn't say anything else outside of the questions he asked. When he came back, I took a lecture from him on the cost of the ticket for speeding 12 mph over the posted limit. $197. Ouch. Then he said "I am not to cite you, but give you a written warning, and please make sure you have your license with you when you drive." We are experiencing some financial tightness right now as always, but a rental house went unexpectantly vacant so we have another mortgage to shoulder, and I couldn't help it but my eyes filled with tears and I said "bless you" and have been thinking almost nonstop about the meaning of mercy. We always want mercy when we're the ones who need it, but in this empowerment society it feels like we are not encourage to always give it, at least, that's the way it's felt like for me. It's often what I deserve, what I need and d*mn those who don't give it to me.

It made me think long and hard about each of us standing before our creator, and what our attitude will be. Will we be defiant? Giving excuses and justifications for our failures? Or begging for mercy? I used to think that everyone would be begging for mercy, but I think now that many will treat it like how I used to treat getting pulled over and confronted by an officer - I had a right to do/think/speak the way that I did for the following, meaningless, reasons - not taking accountability for our actions.
It makes me think about those who stand for judgment as one who didn't accept Christ on earth, but realize the gravity of their sin and beg for mercy.
Sorry for the long post
On another note, DH is going to be out of town this weekend and next weekend and I can't wait for him to go. I want to paint the house and can't do it while he's there because he nags me about color and mess and how much he hates painting and it stresses both of us out. So I discovered last year if I wait until he's gone and let him come home to a surprise, he just looks at it and shrugs. Stress gone. Problem solved. And I get to implement my girly desire to paint the walls with my music on at night carefree and happily. It's kind of funny how being married longer makes you think differently about what acceptance of your spouse means

[twinmom34]

Thanks for a beautiful post Jenn. It really put some perspective into the day for me .

[Sakura]

Thanks, Jenn. Good words.

[ColtsFan1912]

hey amanda. . . .Shiloh has those pj's your DD does lol. i know. random.

[Sakura]

hey amanda. . . .Shiloh has those pj's your DD does lol. i know. random.

My sis got them for her because she knows I like monkeys.

[Sakura]

Can I just vent a little? I don't want to start a whole new thread.

1.My SIL (married to dh's younger bro) is due any day now with their first. I'm so excited for them. But I'm also jealous. I know, that's totally selfish of me. They live about 2-3 hours from us so we'll drive to see them a week or so after the birth and have to spend a decent amount of time hanging out at their place (as opposed to visiting 20 minutes with them at the hospital). I'm thrilled for them but sad for myself. And I feel bad for it.

2.We've gotten different advice on when to try again. My mw said to wait one cycle. My OB said to wait 2. My OB FIL says 3. Dh and I would like to wait one and I told another SIL (my dh's older sis) this and she kind went off on me because I wasn't following her dad's advice. She asked, in a snotty sort of way, if my mw had been practicing as long as Dr. J or Dad. *sigh* She's never had a m/c and it just seemed, to me, like an insensitive thing to say. Dh had to remind me that she'd had a bad day and has always been Daddy's (only) Little Girl. But now I'm annoyed with her. And I realize now just how much opposition I will face over wanting to birth at home.

3.I've started spotting. I'm hoping this is af. I've been super grouchy, and I have a sore throat, and I've been wanting to take showers 5 times a day (all af symptoms for me). But it's brown. So, I don't know if it's af or if my body is still expelling stuff (I haven't bled from the m/c in over 2 weeks).

Thanks for reading. I know that was long. I just needed to get it all off my chest.

[caligirl07]

Can I just vent a little? I don't want to start a whole new thread.

My SIL is due any day now with their first. I'm so excited for them. But I'm also jealous. I know, that's totally selfish of me. They live about 2-3 hours from us so we'll drive to see them a week or so after the birth and have to spend a decent amount of time hanging out at their place (as opposed to visiting 20 minutes with them at the hospital). I'm thrilled for them but sad for myself. And I feel bad for it.

We've gotten different advice on when to try again. My mw said to wait one cycle. My OB said to wait 2. My OB FIL says 3. Dh and I would like to wait one and I told my SIL this and she kind went off on me because I wasn't following her dad's advice. She asked, in a snotty sort of way, if my mw had been practicing as long as Dr. J or Dad. *sigh* She's never had a m/c and it just seemed, to me, like an insensitive thing to say. Dh had to remind me that she'd had a bad day and has always been Daddy's (only) Little Girl. But now I'm annoyed with her. And I realize now just how much opposition I will face over wanting to birth at home.

I've started spotting. I'm hoping this is af. I've been super grouchy, and I have a sore throat, and I've been wanting to take showers 5 times a day (all af symptoms for me). But it's brown. So, I don't know if it's af or if my body is still expelling stuff (I haven't bled from the m/c in over 2 weeks).

Thanks for reading. I know that was long. I just needed to get it all off my chest.

amanda That would totally drive me crazy... Hopefully after she actually goes through birthing a baby she'll be a bit different.

[pants]

Amanda!! I'm sorry you have had to deal with those comments. Medical professionals make the best educated GUESS they can regarding your body. You need to do what you feel is right for yourself. If you want to TTC after one cycle then I say go for it. The Lord is still in control regardless. I agree with Katie...after your SIL actually goes through having a baby maybe she'll think differently!

My hubby asked me a straight forward question last night regarding homebirth. He asked "How would you respond if you and/or baby had to be transported to the hosptial and baby did not survive because of the time distance from the home to the hospital". I was glad he asked. I know where it was coming from and that's another vent. But anyway I straight forward told him after the shock and sadness my very first heart response would be that: though the Lord does allow medical technology to be used to save a life it doesn't undermind His control and ultimate decision in the situation. If the baby was not to live then the baby was not to live regardless of the best medical technology the world has to offer. Medical technology can be used by the Lord for good yes but He is still in control. He is the giver and take of life. He created the life it is his choice to take it away. And i would never ever blame me, my husband, the midwife, our decision due to a baby that passed. There is no sin in what we are doing. Thus no guilt should follow. Thank the Lord for the time this baby is living (inutero) and thank the Lord that another life can praise him in heaven. And I was fully confident in that answer. DH had the same response He just wanted to hear it from me.

The vent was that my MIL prompted the question. She went out for a girls night from her work the other night. All of them were doctors and nurses and the subject came up that I was having a homebirth. And my MIL is now all panicky and nervous again. The doctors were completely against that and really put the fear factor in my MIL, who was already nervous about the homebirth. She asked me that same question a few days ago that hubby asked so I knew where it was coming from. And I thank the Lord for the witnessing opportunity that lead from it. She will blame us for the decision if her grandson was to perish due to homebirth. I know she will. But I pray that will not happen! I am purposely withholding my MW name from my MIL. She has too many doctor friends in the area and since my MW is a CPM and not legally supposed to attend the birth that could be a slippery slope. KWIM

[ayles]

Can I just vent a little? I don't want to start a whole new thread.

My SIL is due any day now with their first. I'm so excited for them. But I'm also jealous. I know, that's totally selfish of me. They live about 2-3 hours from us so we'll drive to see them a week or so after the birth and have to spend a decent amount of time hanging out at their place (as opposed to visiting 20 minutes with them at the hospital). I'm thrilled for them but sad for myself. And I feel bad for it.

We've gotten different advice on when to try again. My mw said to wait one cycle. My OB said to wait 2. My OB FIL says 3. Dh and I would like to wait one and I told my SIL this and she kind went off on me because I wasn't following her dad's advice. She asked, in a snotty sort of way, if my mw had been practicing as long as Dr. J or Dad. *sigh* She's never had a m/c and it just seemed, to me, like an insensitive thing to say. Dh had to remind me that she'd had a bad day and has always been Daddy's (only) Little Girl. But now I'm annoyed with her. And I realize now just how much opposition I will face over wanting to birth at home.

I've started spotting. I'm hoping this is af. I've been super grouchy, and I have a sore throat, and I've been wanting to take showers 5 times a day (all af symptoms for me). But it's brown. So, I don't know if it's af or if my body is still expelling stuff (I haven't bled from the m/c in over 2 weeks).

Thanks for reading. I know that was long. I just needed to get it all off my chest.

Sorry for the hurt you're experiencing. Praying for your emotional strength and peace and also for the ability to extend grace to your sil.

Not justifying her hurting your feelings at all and I hope you won't take offense to this but I wondered if she got defensive and wanted the focus to stay on her newborn and the excitement around it rather than start talking about someone else in the family getting pregnant etc.? For first time moms sometimes the excitement and joy of having a baby can be so overwhelming that they don't want it to be about anyone else/else's baby if that makes sense? Just a thought.

I believe you should do what the Lord is telling you to do and even if He doesn't explicitly say do it on this day if He's not telling you not to do at a certain time then He must be okay with you using your judgment to make that decision.

[caligirl07]

Amanda!! I'm sorry you have had to deal with those comments. Medical professionals make the best educated GUESS they can regarding your body. You need to do what you feel is right for yourself. If you want to TTC after one cycle then I say go for it. The Lord is still in control regardless. I agree with Katie...after your SIL actually goes through having a baby maybe she'll think differently!

My hubby asked me a straight forward question last night regarding homebirth. He asked "How would you respond if you and/or baby had to be transported to the hosptial and baby did not survive because of the time distance from the home to the hospital". I was glad he asked. I know where it was coming from and that's another vent. But anyway I straight forward told him after the shock and sadness my very first heart response would be that: though the Lord does allow medical technology to be used to save a life it doesn't undermind His control and ultimate decision in the situation. If the baby was not to live then the baby was not to live regardless of the best medical technology the world has to offer. Medical technology can be used by the Lord for good yes but He is still in control. He is the giver and take of life. He created the life it is his choice to take it away. And i would never ever blame me, my husband, the midwife, our decision due to a baby that passed. There is no sin in what we are doing. Thus no guilt should follow. Thank the Lord for the time this baby is living (inutero) and thank the Lord that another life can praise him in heaven. And I was fully confident in that answer. DH had the same response He just wanted to hear it from me.

The vent was that my MIL prompted the question. She went out for a girls night from her work the other night. All of them were doctors and nurses and the subject came up that I was having a homebirth. And my MIL is now all panicky and nervous again. The doctors were completely against that and really put the fear factor in my MIL, who was already nervous about the homebirth. She asked me that same question a few days ago that hubby asked so I knew where it was coming from. And I thank the Lord for the witnessing opportunity that lead from it. She will blame us for the decision if her grandson was to perish due to homebirth. I know she will. But I pray that will not happen! I am purposely withholding my MW name from my MIL. She has too many doctor friends in the area and since my MW is a CPM and not legally supposed to attend the birth that could be a slippery slope. KWIM

Brenda, I love your paragraph about the answer to your hubby's question! Im totally going to keep that in mind, you had such an awesome way of explaining your peace about birthing at home. I had so many questions like that while pregnant with Kaelyn. and Now I have a new SIL who is a high risk ob, and it is stressful in the sense that if/when we have another baby I know exactly whats going to come from her.... and if something did happen... I know it would be an "I told you so..."


I also now get questions like... Well every thing went great with Kaelyn's home birth shouldn't you just accept that you got to birth your way and move back to the hospital where its safe...

[pants]

Jen-I just read your post. I probably would have teared up too!!! That's great....CONFESSION HERE: but I usually top out at 8MPH over too. LOL.....I guess I should watch that with police stations strapped for money. I should just make it 5 over. DH is the real speeder in the family. He'll go 15 over easy. 5 tickets between 18-25 and you think he would learn...nope....ARG.............

[pants]

Brenda, I love your paragraph about the answer to your hubby's question! Im totally going to keep that in mind, you had such an awesome way of explaining your peace about birthing at home. I had so many questions like that while pregnant with Kaelyn. and Now I have a new SIL who is a high risk ob, and it is stressful in the sense that if/when we have another baby I know exactly whats going to come from her.... and if something did happen... I know it would be an "I told you so..."


I also now get questions like... Well every thing went great with Kaelyn's home birth shouldn't you just accept that you got to birth your way and move back to the hospital where its safe...

Oh lovely I can't wait to hear that one. Yeah I mentally prepared myself for all of the what if's well before I got prego. This is just one answer that the Lord just gave me peace about. Will I be heart broken YES.....Will I want to get angry at people that have the "told you so" attitude. Which we'll immediately get from FIL/MIL...YES but I know that God can use anything for good. I'd be devastated but you know it wouldn't deter me from trying a homebirth again. The hospital isn't the end all be all answer. I think what's interesting is that the Lord uses medical technology for good. But people have become dependent on that and whether they realize it or not...it becomes their "idol/God"..they believe it was the technology or (for your OB SIL) their medical school knowledge and degree that saved them. No it was the LORD that allowed the technology to be used but he still chose to prolonged their life. But whether the technology was there or not their life would have been spared if that is what the Lord predestined their life to do. I by no means am against using medical technology. However we all must keep in mind who is in ultimate control. And in regards to birthing, well the Lord has designed a womens body to go through birth. It's such an amazing thing. And I just keep telling my MIL that I am giving my body the best possible opportunity to birth the way it's designed to. If we do need medical intervention it would be because of a real emergency, not because i'm in a hospital bed and being told that I can't move because they have to find the heartbeat using an internal monitor (which they could have just used a hand held doppler to find the heartbeat). KWIM. That's not birth. It's torture.

[Sakura]

Oh sorry guys. I should have clarified. I have a number of SILs and was talking about two different ones. One SIL is having her first soon, she's married to dh's younger bro. The other SIL (the snarky one ) has 3 kids, and is dh's older sis. I went back and clarified, I hope.


Thanks, gals, for the I felt better just getting it out.

I think this is definitely af. Getting heavier and redder. Whew.