There was a 5 guys less than a mile from my house in KC, and I never ate there...
Lydia - If the meat yesterday was horse, I kinda doubt it was bought commercially or by special order. There are TONS of wild horses here, and I can totally imagine them going out and slaughtering one themselves...
We had a place in Alaska that was shut down because it was discovered that they were capturing stray cats, and cooking/serving them... and my homestay family in Japan offered me dog. (Which I didn't eat btw) This was the day after they served up the goldfish that had been in the fish tank in the hallway.
I know Sarah. It's tough. All I can tell you is, pick your battles! Or you'll be battling all day.
Speaking of battles, the other day I told Josh to go up and pick out a shirt. It was hot out, and he came out with a sweatshirt on. He was so proud that he picked it out and put it on all by himself, but DH was afraid we'd look like bad parents if we took him out in a sweatshirt in 70 degree weather. He managed to coax Josh into a T shirt but I thought it would have been better to let him stay in it and if he got hot he'd learn not to pick out a sweatshirt when it's hot out. (we did tell him he would be hot in it and he still wanted to wear it) What do you guys think of situations like that?
Because I like chicken and I like beef too much. I just feel bad eating it but not quite bad enough. I don't really know how to do things vegetarian style like with beans and soy. I don't like eggs. and with the gastric bypass I have to be careful to get in my protein (because food bypasses the first 5 ft of upper intestine, I have to be careful for absorption issues). I do LOVE cheese but have to be careful with milk (surgery left me somewhat lactose intolerant)....and I like nuts.
so yeah I like the idea in theory and wish I could do it but I just don't think that I could realistically.
All this talk about unusual food sources has made me hungry for duck. I LOVE duck. Not that you were talking about duck, but someone mentioned not liking it up thread! I like buffalo and elk, too, but I don't care for fish/seafood. I don't know that horse would necessarily be any worse than other similar animals, but horses seem to have a lot of personality to me. I'd have a hard time eating horse just like I know I could never eat dog or cat. Then again, pigs are very intelligent animals and I love bacon! I guess it's just all about what you are comfortable with, in the end.
Goldfish, though? Is there even enough meat on a goldfish to justify cooking it? I ate quail once and I just felt guilty. We have lots of quail living wild here and they are so cute, and the quail was just so small and sad on my plate I hated to waste it. I won't ever eat that again.
You guys, I totally lost my cool tonight in front of the kids. Dbf left to go pick up our milk a half hour away and was gone for 4 hours. For 2 1/2 of those hours he wasn't answering his phone. I was beyond worried. I heard all of these sirens...just thinking the absolute worst because I knew he picked up the milk at 3:30 and here it is 7:00 and I'm thinking something terrible must have happened. Finally he comes home telling me how he was helping a friend look at apts. But after listening to him talk for a bit I can tell he he's had drinks. So I ask and he stumbles over his words saying he was here and there and when I question the indiscrepency he gets really, really mad. Asking me why am I doing this? Like it's me! He's lying! Again. Lying. And when I ask him why he is lying he walks away from me and as he's going down the hall I hear him say, "Why can't I just have a good woman? Why? I'm such a good person. I need a good woman."
I lost it. And I hate myself for it. I'm so sorry, you guys, that I am forever in here complaining about him.
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Bridget - I think that it is perfectly fine you were upset. Seriously, even in front of the kids. Because what he did was wrong. Not just leaving and not answering the phone, but I think it is worse that he then tried to somehow blame you for lacking something (goodness of all things!), as if that would keep him from doing these bad things.
It think it is worse for your kids to see one adult treat another adult like that and everyone act as if it is normal. That is NOT normal and I would hate it if your kids thought that it was.
He is incapable of being who you need him to be. I'm sorry if that is harsh, but he is simply not on your level in any way.
"Any idiot can face a crisis; it is this day-to-day living that wears you out." -Anton Chekhov
Who the eff does he think he is?! He tried saying that you are not a GOOD woman!? If I were a man Bridget........................... seriously! lol and What did he do with the milk while he was "helping his friend"?
And feel free to vent as much as you need to. Thats what we are here for.. to listen. (and sympathize) I know I vented quite a bit about B for a while... and I'm sure I will need to vent about him in the future...
I don't know that I have ever had quail, but have had ptarmigan. y-u-m!
Bridget, I don't know if I've told you my DH used to have a drinking problem (he's been sober for 18 months now) but for me it was the lying that was out of control. That was worse than the drinking. He would do things like tell me he was going to lunch with a friend, and I would tell him I needed him back by a certain time. Then he wouldn't show up so at 3:30 I'd call and he'd tell me he hadn't ordered yet. When he left the house at 11:30. The lying almost ended our marriage - it would have if he hadn't quit. When he quit, the random disappearances and the lying also stopped. Right away.
Bridget, your dh makes me madder than anyone I know IRL.
I've had quail, octopus, snails, pretty much lots of weird stuff. I'm an adventurous eater, but I can't say I'm too fond of any of the weirder foods I try. I don't even like game. It's too gamy. Japan has some really weird food, and I mostly lived on noodle soup when I was there. For the lack of ick factor, and because food is so pricey a $10 bowl of Ramen was about all I could afford at each meal. I don't get grossed out with the idea of other people eating cats, dogs, guinea pigs, or rats, but I think those are the animals I'd have the hardest time with. Oh, and I also passed up the fried bugs in Thailand. *Shudder*
Dh thinks I'm being too brutally honest when I tell the children that beef is from a cow (and I moo for emphasis), etc. but I figure if they always know this, if they grow up knowing it, then there won't be this huge shock/betrayal when they realize meat is the same thing as animals.
I really don't like Japanese food. My sister's husband is from Japan and he is restaurant manager for a Japanese club/restaurant and brings my sister the weirdest food. She always treats me like I'm crazy or a wimp or something but I just don't like the style of food. Most cuisines I will find something I like but that one is hard for me. Sushi is so popular that people just don't understand my reaction, but I've been to Japan and I've eaten the food there. Don't care for it, not going to change my mind.
Bridget, I don't even know what to say.
I saw something last night about a book called "Why not eat Insects?". The author is making the case that we eat crustaceans (basically insects of the sea) , so why not insects?
My kids are totally aware the meat is animals. In fact, almost any night that I cook they ask me, "What animal is this?" When Savana first discovered that chicken was chicken she said something like, "I don't know why I don't feel bad. I love animals so much. But I don't feel bad."
And thanks for the support ladies.
and I don't ever remember a time not knowing where meet came from. There are really kids that didn't know?
I grew up in the country, but my parents never strangled a chicken in the backyard either. Almost all our meet came from the grocery store, although my father did hunt. I've had wild turkey, deer, rabbit, and squirrel.
My sil got upset with me for telling my nephew that beef was cow. Savana was a baby chewing on her stuffed cow and he said, "EWWWW. Eating cow??? That's disgusting" and I said, "A hamburger is cow." My sil cut me off and said they hadn't let him know that fact of life. I felt bad because I had no intention of overstepping my boundaries.
When we go fishing and someone catches a fish Savana will yell, "Yum! Go cut the face off and we can eat it for dinner!"