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    Yeah, he devours the meals I cook. I don't think he should say a word about the mess. Actually, to mention it once or twice, to offer a suggestion of how I could make things easier, would be fine. But he has seriously said it to me so many times. I have to laugh to stay sane.

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    I make a mess when cooking too. I try to have a dishpan ready and wash things when I can or put away ingredients as I am cooking. Something I make a lot, I am better at doing this. But if it is new and I'm trying to follow a recipe...especially if I'm cutting everything in half, or its something that needs to be stirred all the time....sometimes the mess gets cleaned up AFTER dinner.

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    This one was quite good when I made over the weekend. http://allrecipes.com/recipe/taco-lasagna-2/

    And this (except I used tomatoes with green pepper/onion because that is what I had) http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/p...ipe/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget View Post
    Yeah, he devours the meals I cook. I don't think he should say a word about the mess. Actually, to mention it once or twice, to offer a suggestion of how I could make things easier, would be fine. But he has seriously said it to me so many times. I have to laugh to stay sane.
    I'm glad you can. I'm pretty sure I'd stuff him in the oven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmosmom View Post
    And this (except I used tomatoes with green pepper/onion because that is what I had) http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/p...ipe/index.html
    Mmmm that looks fantastic and easy!

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    Christina it was easy and good! And I generally suck at rice on the stove top but I managed this one just fine. My DH said it was better than any restaurant one he's had.

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    I'm going to try a slow cooker pork vindaloo this week (with rice). I'll let y'all know how it turns out.

    I have some things to add about the mom conversation, but haven't had much time to write and haven't had much sleep. I had chores and had it out with DH last night until about 11:30 and then S. woke me up multiple times and then DH woke up at 5 because he couldn't sleep and then I couldn't sleep so I got up. I don't have a whole lot of patience for yelling kids today, and DH and I aren't giving each other a lot of slack because of leftover tensions from the weekend. DH is under a ton of work stress right now, and he feels under the gun to get a lot of work done every night - probably the way I feel all the time, that my work is never done and I always have more to do, instead of being able to relax and play a video game when the kids are asleep. It's wearing on him. Although my work is mostly internally motivated, and nobody else is going to care as much if the dishes aren't done every night and the laundry is skipped one day.


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    L, a vindaloo?! Isn't that one of the hottest curries there is? A lot of my male Brit friends like to brag that they can eat a vindaloo after a night out drinking.

    Just going back to the parenting conversation. I had an awkward childhood. Whenever I hear anyone say that they'd like to go back to being a child, I think to myself, 'Not in a million years would I go back!' My parents were both extremely poor growing up. If you've ever seen pictures of the Great Depression, that's what my parents' childhood was like, so to my parents, me and my 2 siblings had a great childhood as we had food on the table every night and shelter. Our house didn't always have glass windows (covered in plastic from panes being broken out). We didn't always have hot water or electricity, but we survived. I'm sure my parents loved us, but they didn't ever really show it. We kind of raised ourselves since both my parents worked long hours when I was little. We roamed the woods every day and kept ourselves busy with our crazy imaginations, and I am surprised that none of us killed ourselves from the stunts we pulled (like climbing bluffs, swimming across river currents and jumping from tall rocks with no adults around.) When I got a bit older, my mother turned in to an alcoholic and I can remember that awful feeling of a knot in my stomach when I would be on the bus on the way home from school. That was from when I was about 10 to 15. She was sooo embarrassing. Again, we raised ourselves through that whole time period and it affected in me in that I couldn't do any after-school type clubs or pursue any interests where most parents would help you out like being on a sports team or academic clubs because mine just weren't able to do anything for us in that nature. When I was 17, my mom got a full-time job and it was the best thing to happen to us as it stopped her drinking as much. Looking back at it all, I don't blame my parents for anything or resent them, but I know that they influenced me in how socially awkward I was back then. I just had no idea how to interact with people. I never knew how to express my emotions or feelings. I lived in my own little bubble. I moved away as soon as I could and I think my parents now are a little sad that we aren't closer, but we just didn't have that kind of relationship. I miss them every day as I miss the familiarity of my surroundings and being around people who have known me my whole life.

    I know that I want to have a much better relationship with my own children, so I know that I won't be much like my own parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmosmom View Post
    Christina it was easy and good! And I generally suck at rice on the stove top but I managed this one just fine. My DH said it was better than any restaurant one he's had.
    I'll have to admit I am generally pretty boring rice wise. Love me some white rice and butter!

    I'll have to show hubs this recipe. This would be right up his alley!

    I really need to get some more recipes under my belt. I'll be honest with you ladies and say we do frozen dinners more since I've been pregnant than I've ever done. I am so tired after work and trying to cram in homework before my 7 o'clock 'have to lay down' nausea hits that I don't have time to actually cook something. Sigh.

    Mama needs more quick and easy crockpot recipes!

    L I am sorry hubs is feeling the pressure. I think some down time is good and healthy for everyone. I tend to be my most productive (well, not now) after getting some 'me' time. Although, I am not so good at taking my own advice generally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeriBrit View Post
    Just going back to the parenting conversation. I had an awkward childhood. Whenever I hear anyone say that they'd like to go back to being a child, I think to myself, 'Not in a million years would I go back!' My parents were both extremely poor growing up. If you've ever seen pictures of the Great Depression, that's what my parents' childhood was like, so to my parents, me and my 2 siblings had a great childhood as we had food on the table every night and shelter. Our house didn't always have glass windows (covered in plastic from panes being broken out). We didn't always have hot water or electricity, but we survived. I'm sure my parents loved us, but they didn't ever really show it. We kind of raised ourselves since both my parents worked long hours when I was little. We roamed the woods every day and kept ourselves busy with our crazy imaginations, and I am surprised that none of us killed ourselves from the stunts we pulled (like climbing bluffs, swimming across river currents and jumping from tall rocks with no adults around.) When I got a bit older, my mother turned in to an alcoholic and I can remember that awful feeling of a knot in my stomach when I would be on the bus on the way home from school. That was from when I was about 10 to 15. She was sooo embarrassing. Again, we raised ourselves through that whole time period and it affected in me in that I couldn't do any after-school type clubs or pursue any interests where most parents would help you out like being on a sports team or academic clubs because mine just weren't able to do anything for us in that nature. When I was 17, my mom got a full-time job and it was the best thing to happen to us as it stopped her drinking as much. Looking back at it all, I don't blame my parents for anything or resent them, but I know that they influenced me in how socially awkward I was back then. I just had no idea how to interact with people. I never knew how to express my emotions or feelings. I lived in my own little bubble. I moved away as soon as I could and I think my parents now are a little sad that we aren't closer, but we just didn't have that kind of relationship. I miss them every day as I miss the familiarity of my surroundings and being around people who have known me my whole life.

    I know that I want to have a much better relationship with my own children, so I know that I won't be much like my own parents.
    I would never want to go back to my childhood either and that mostly makes me sad.

    I don't resent my parents (anymore), but I am not close to them. Not in the way that I see other people are with their parents. To me that concept is foreign. I want different for Nolan and this babe, without a doubt.

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    Ash . It sounds like your childhood wasn't easy. I can very much relate to the fact that they weren't around much to be role models for you. We were latchkey kids, with my parents working all the time, and I feel as though they didn't impart any values to me. I feel like I pieced together everything from books, TV, teachers, my sister. My parents were already very reserved towards me (see above), but there was also the fact that they were struggling with being immigrants in a new land, and they didn't know how to assimilate their values with the new ones they were encountering. It kind of paralyzed them from giving us any kind of proactive instruction as we were growing up. They embarrassed me a lot too. They also went through a good decade of being into Charismatic Catholicism, speaking in tongues and hosting 7-hr prayer meetings in our home, and they completely failed to convey why any of that was any good. There are subtle things I got from my parents that I'm grateful for. My mom is a very poised, gracious lady, and I sometimes hear myself mimicking her voice in situations that call for poise and grace. I have one great memory of my dad from when I was 10; it was Xmas Eve, and he took me to buy some Duran Duran posters. But for the most part, I remember him as being very cold and distant. I remember being very upset about a high school classmate dying in a car crash, and my dad very grudgingly let me cry on his shoulder, but it seemed like it was excruciating to him.

    Something shifted a little in my early 20s, when my sister lost her mind and got committed, and we had to come together to get through that period - just taking care of practical matters like "what are we going to do about her car & apartment?" and "how can we transition her out of the institution and back home?". I think we realized then that we related to each other better as adults. But I guess by that time, it was a little too late to have the connection I feel a child should feel with a parent.

    Bridget, I'm the messy one in the family, for sure, so I know how you feel getting nagged about it. In my case, I deserve it, though. I just wish M wouldn't be such a broken record and seemingly belittling towards you. It seems loud and clear to me that he feels exempt from having to do the chores related to keeping the home running smoothly. Have you ever come to an agreement between the two of you on that one simple question: Should M or shouldn't he be pitching in with things like doing the dishes? It'd be a start.

    L, I'm so sorry that the tension from the weekend is still vibrating in your household. I'm hoping this is just a phase for the two of you because it's brought on by his work. The work stress probably explains a lot about his attitude over the weekend too. I hope you get some more sleep, at the very least. Do you ever stay in bed all night with S? At times that B is waking up multiple times at night, I find that sometimes it helps to just be there for him to roll into. I sleep with these ear plugs in that allow me to still hear him if he cries out, and since I'm already there, I only have to rouse myself minimally to give him a quick cuddle. I hope this all passes soon for you.
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    I told my child that it was time for a shower, and she actually said 'Yes Mama, let's go upstairs'. I think she is coming down with something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suja View Post
    I told my child that it was time for a shower, and she actually said 'Yes Mama, let's go upstairs'. I think she is coming down with something
    I know exactly how you feel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suja View Post
    I told my child that it was time for a shower, and she actually said 'Yes Mama, let's go upstairs'. I think she is coming down with something
    Me too! If Bodhi's too compliant, I think there must be something wrong. Like yesterday, after the BIG accident, he didn't fight bedtime and volunteered to brush his teeth. I immediately thought he might have a concussion.

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    Kate, btw, did you get any video of Josh in The Lion King? Your kid may have found his calling.

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    I did get a video but I haven't figured out how to upload it anywhere yet. I'll let you know when I do!

    (he certainly is dramatic enough to go into an entertainment career...)

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    Bridget, I've said it before and I'll say it again. HOW do you put up with him?

    Suja, I thought of you and Mira today. I was out on the playground with one of my kids today (seriously, I never do this but the weather was gorgeous and he kept asking to go play outside). When we went out he said something (he talked a ton but he was really hard to understand) and I think he said it was not windy. So I pointed out that it was warm and sunny and the wind was blowing. "Why is the wind blowing?" Because it is windy. "Why is there wind?" Because it's always windy somewhere, and right now the wind is here. "Why is it here?"

    I'm more comfortable with the ones who don't talk. At least I don't have to explain weather patterns.
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    Dude, you should've totally talked about high pressure and low pressure and temperature differentials and all that. He would've stopped listeneing half way through

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suja View Post
    Dude, you should've totally talked about high pressure and low pressure and temperature differentials and all that. He would've stopped listeneing half way through
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeriBrit View Post
    ...I can remember that awful feeling of a knot in my stomach when I would be on the bus on the way home from school...


    I know that feeling. Different reasons of course, but oh how well I remember feeling that way. Each and every day.


    I went shopping and spent too much and feel like crap. I never do that.

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    Thanks for the welcomes ladies!

    Mandy- He is doing better. He has been home for three weeks now. And as of today he is 8 weeks old. He hit 7 pounds this week, he is having a hard time gaining weight and is on EBM fortified with formula to 28 cals and is eating every two hours around the clock. He is in physical therapy and we have been working with an early intervention team to make those home visits. I don't think we could have intervened any earlier considering this all started when he was three days old. Lol!!

    Bridget- I am a messy cook, but I think if anyone complained to me about it that I would no longer be the cook!

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    Rachael, I think you are putting the "early" in Early Intervention!

    All things considered, sounds like he is doing well. I'm glad he's home.
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    Oh no, Chrissy! I would have thought shopping would have made you feel better. Can you return anything that you think was excessive?

    Ladies, I have a dinner tale to tell you tonight. Since I've been all about endangering my family lately , it all started when I brought home 2lbs of beef liver yesterday. I was going to serve it up straight tonight, but I chickened out. So I brought home 2 more lbs of ground beef and proceeded to mix a 4:3 ratio of ground beef to liver all together in the food processor with breadcrumbs, eggs, red peppers, tomato paste, raisins & parsley. And then I started to get a little more creative about masking the flavor with other ingredients like cinnamon, red pepper, beet, dried apricots, peas, whole flaxseed, ground pumpkin seed, carrots, and this agave nectar I'm trying to get rid of. As I was throwing it all together, for some reason, the random name, "Meatloaf of Interest", just kept repeating again and again in my mind. And since I now had a huge mixture of the stuff to bake, I ended up baking it in a loaf pan and the next best-shaped pan for making a loaf that can be sliced, which turned out to be a Bundt pan. Bodhi thought it was a giant donut when it first got popped out onto the plate. LOL.

    So without further adieu, I present to you ....




    ********* The Meatloaf of Interest *********





    I could totally taste the bitter/metallic flavor of liver in it and because of that, I had a hard time getting it down. BTW, I didn't tell anyone else what was in it. Steve LOVED it. He ate it with ketchup and kept making yum-yum sounds and talking about how moist it was. Bodhi wasn't as easily fooled, but he did eat about 2 oz. of it (and a huge slice of buttered bread). Steve plans to make a meatloaf sandwich for lunch and put some on his homemade pizza for tomorrow's dinner.

    I don't know if I should ever tell him what was in his dinner tonight. At one point, he asked me if it was turkey, and I just shook my head no and said it was "all-beef". Now I feel kind of bad from hiding the truth from DH, who says he always gagged on liver as a child. Moral dilemma!

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    That is a dilemma!
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    M, I love meatloaf but even if liver wasn't poison to me, I'm not sure how I'd feel about that one. I admire you for going for it, though! and I love that your dh loved it and that Bodhi ate it too. Sounds like a success. The picture you posted reminds me of this cookbook I have -- it's from the 50s and it's insane. Here's a post someone did about it on a very fun food blog: http://www.badanduglyofretrofood.com...revisited.html Check out the "three layer salad." Lemon jello with pimientos, anyone? But your "Meatloaf of Interest" has a much better name.

    Bridget, I have to echo everyone else. I don't know how you do it. You're a saint. I admit, though, that sometimes dh makes snippy comments about it if the dinner dishes aren't done (by me), and I really don't think that should be my job considering I made the shopping list, shopped for the food, hauled it all home, put it away, and cooked it up for the whole family. It would be nice if they could do something. He used to do the dinner dishes, but somehow over the last year or two he's started thinking it's not his job. I do find it pretty annoying. I'm not very messy when I cook -- I clean the kitchen before I start, and I try to wash as I go, but there's only so much I can do.

    Ashley, Myles and others who shared stories about their parents: I feel for you. Childhood troubles are so ingrained -- they really shape our lives. I admire you all for wanting more for your children.
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    OMG, Gretchen! "Why share when everybody should get their own individual frozen fruit and cheese salad mold?" And the party sandwich loaf! How on earth did they frost it?

    The origins of tonight's dinner comes from me listening to a Paleo Mom podcast on the benefits of organ meats. (Not that I'm Paleo; lately I've been trying to eat more Weston Price/"Nourishing Traditions" guidelines, which is very Paleo-friendly). Normally, I like being impulsive about trying new recipes, but tonight's improv meatloaf was just a little bit too ... ick... even for me. This might go into the column of food mishaps. I told you guys the duck story already. I'll have to tell you the lobster tale (heh) next.

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    Oh, Myles. The thought of beef liver makes me shudder! But I like the presentation.

    Mil arrives tonight. 13 days. Give me strength. It is always a true test of my character.

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    I eat mostly paleo, but liver, ew. I don't think I've ever had it and I have absolutely zero desire to try it.

    I want to hear the lobster tale! I love lobster. It's so expensive right now, so I haven't had it in a while.

    Bridget, I also don't know how you put up with it. I think I would have lost it a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demigraf View Post
    Oh no, Chrissy! I would have thought shopping would have made you feel better. Can you return anything that you think was excessive?
    I hate shopping, so it never feels good. When I'm already in a bad mood or depressed, it's even worse. I can't really return anything. I had to buy a pair of jeans because I ripped a hole in the knee of one of my 5 pair, and I can't wear ripped jeans to work. And I don't like wearing slacks or skirts since I never know when I'm going to end up on the floor. I bought Jesi some black stretchy pants because hers are already starting to feel too tight, and of course if I buy for her I have to buy for her sisters as well. So not much of what I spent was on me, but it all came out of my trip $ and at this rate I'm not going to have any. Ah well. It's done and hopefully I won't have to return to a mall for at least 6 months.

    While I'm thinking about it, I just gotta say I'm going to have to start walking if not jogging again. And I need to eat better. It's still bitter cold here (30s) and I'm just itching to get outside darnnit! Trying on jeans is such a self esteem wrecker for me. It was more fun when I was a 4 and everything I picked up off the rack just fit. I ended up buying two pairs of pants last night. One a size 6 that are a bit too big for me and another a size 10 that fit just right. I hate how varied the sizes are. It means I HAVE to try stuff on. And when I grab an 8 and can't pull them up past my thighs, I don't care that it's just that manufacturer's sizing standard. It's frustrating and makes me feel like a cow every time. Plus, I hate how I look under florescent lighting.

    I think your meatloaf looks good. Me, I'd just tell him. Our taste-buds change (or our tastes anyway) from childhood to adulthood. I happen to love liver. Liver & onions is one of my favorite dishes.



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    I'd tell him about the liver, too. If he likes it, why the heck not.

    Poor DH this Easter, we went up to my aunt and uncle's and they made ham and lamb. Both of those things have made DH physically ill in the past. He flat out refuses to eat lamb now (he got sick the first time he tried it), and he'll eat ham but you can't tell him in advance that he's having it. He used to love ham but since it made him sick that one time like 3 years ago he has a hard time with it.

    So I didn't tell him we were having lamb and ham and he shot daggers at me when he heard my aunt say it. LOL

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