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    Ah! I knew there were two blonde girls I always got confused! They were popular around the same time, right?

    Gretchen, I don't mind being called Ash or AmeriAsh or even my screen name. I think it's nice that we all know each other's names.

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    Thanks for all the input, ladies! I'm not sure I want to go the route of professional help since she has made such vast improvements doing what we've been doing. Just the fact that she lets me take things out is a step. But I do know that as time goes on that she will need to take a more active role. I believe, just by the steps she's taken over the past year, and the maturity she has shown me regarding her emotions, that she will be able to. I was taking her to a counselor for awhile, the only child one that our insurance covered and it was a complete waste of time. Savana would not talk to her and frankly she was not very warm and didn't do much to draw Savana out of her shell. There was no diagnosis. Everything I did was based on advice from abbeysmom, who L mentioned. I read some literature on children with ocd and followed the advice they gave and she's shown major improvement. Ash, I am so glad you enjoyed yourself! A child free night would be amazing. I hope that will come sometime in our future! I am so gosh darn tired today. I stayed up way too late organizing my bathroom cupboards and as soon as I lay down and close my eyes, Sawyer wakes up! ARGH. Then he was up at 5am and though he was willing to lay down, he wouldn't stop chattering so I coudn't go back to sleep. Plus, yesterday he ate a ton of straight roasted garlic (he loves it) and so his pee smell was so strong my eyes were burning! lol. Once I got him up to change him he was ready to go sit on the couch and read books. I can hardly hold my eyes open today. Going to have my second round of coffee here so I can make it throught the afternoon!

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    I would trust your gut, Bridget. You have good instincts when it comes to your kids. I wasn't suggesting that you take Savana to a therapist, but that you meet with one to come up with a long term plan. I mean, none of us are professionals, so there are likely limits to what we can offer, and you may get good, usable information from a therapist. It kind of stinks though that there is only one that is covered with your insurance. As with everything else, there are good therapists and bad therapists, and the one you met doesn't sound all that great.

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    I forgot to tell you guys, but we celebrated Mira's 3rd birthday on Saturday, at SIL's house. She had called to ask me what she should get, and I said something small, like Play Doh or puzzles. Guess what she got? A frickin' kitchen. I don't know if they make anything bigger. Why bother asking, right?

    We had a Korean chocolate cake, Korean wings (both are AMAZING; I don't even eat wings, but this stuff is so addictive) and Chinese food. Yesterday, Mira was super cranky from needing a nap, and asked what happened to her beautiful brown cake. I said that it's all gone, that her brothers ate it, as did we. She goes 'Bad brothers! I'm going to put my hands inside their tummy, take it out, and eat it all!' Shortly thereafter, she fell asleep. She loves, loves, loves her "brudders", so I knew she must desperately need a nap.

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    Well, our outing today ended prematurely. We met Janet and Maiya at Children's Fairyland, and at least I gave her the Potette potty seat before we got started. They got to see how R. just likes to run off, but he was at least telling me where he was going. ("I'm going to take a short cut and meet you over there.") Then after we got in, my more responsible child ran face-first into the bubble machine and destroyed her gum above her central incisor and knocked her tooth loose. The tooth is displaced below the other teeth, the gum is a pulpy mess above three teeth, and after being on hold for a long time while holding C. and trying to control the bleeding and comfort her while keeping on eye on the two boys (and thank goodness Janet was there!), we decided to just go since it was obvious we wouldn't be able to keep playing no matter what. We have an emergency appointment at the dentist at 2 PM today and they are going to check for fractures and pull the displaced tooth and any others that might be damaged.

    It was hard going back to the car, because R. kept wanting to run away, so I had to hold his hand, and S. didn't want to leave so I had to drag him with my other hand, and C. needed comfort so I had to hold her with my third hand. Just kidding. I don't have a third hand. I had to apologize to C. I tried to hold both boys with one hand, but they were both being too recalcitrant, so I held each one with a strong hand and asked C. to be patient with me and told her I would give her extra attention when we had the boys confined. She impresses me so much sometimes. I'd show you a picture, but it's way too gory.


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    Omg, poor little C!

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    Poor kid! That sounds awful! Hope she heals quickly.

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    Ouch! I hope it isn't too terrible.

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    Oh my gosh, L. Poor little poppet! That sounds awful. I hope the damage is limited to the one tooth and that her gum heals quickly.

    And Suja, happy birthday to Mira! She's so cute... I can just picture her talking about the cake (if I were her, I'd be mad there wasn't any left over, too!). And I'm sorry about the kitchen. I hope it's not too different than what you would have chosen (my mom does that kind of thing and it drives me crazy). But I'll bet Mira will love having a play kitchen.
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    Mira's birthday is not until Friday. We celebrated early because my visiting niece who was here on her college tour was leaving yesterday, and we wanted her to be a part of it. I am okay with the kitchen. It's just too big and spendy, and I'm really trying hard to downsize Mira's "stuff" (which she has too much of). My preference would've been for something small that I could stick in a cubby or shelf. But, it holds her attention for more than 5 seconds, which is always good.

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    Oh L! How awful for you and C. That stinks about the kitchen gift Suja. You're right, why even bother to ask?

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    I wasn't familiar with Mindy McCready's music but I had heard about her recent troubles. How sad Happy early birthday to Mira! L, sorry about the tooth! Thanks for not posting the picture Teeth stuff really grosses me out! I hope the teeth are okay. Speaking of that, Josh damaged one of his front teeth about 3 years ago and it's getting loose. It's one of the top ones so it's not supposed to come out first but he had a dentist appt. today and they said it might come out early. Plus one of his bottom teeth is loose. I'm sorry the kitchen is so huge Suja, do you have room for it? I wonder why she asked and then disregarded what you said.Ah ha..if you put "break" twice, each inside the greater than/less than symbols, they make paragraphs. Thanks for the tip...I think it was L?And of course now that I've edited it again, the breaks are gone...LOL
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    L, I am so sorry about C! How miserable it must have been for all of you to have to focus so much on the boys that you couldn't comfort her.

    I walked face-first into a shoe attached to a child on the swings at school when I was 6. My tooth was kicked out and I remember it being very traumatic. I won't go into all my woes on the subject, but in short, keep in contact with your dentist and orthodontist regarding the missing tooth now.
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    That sounds awful Mandy

    With both my brother and two of my kids, the only teeth issues I've experienced first hand ended up being good things. There's some gene that makes a baby tooth not only appear dead center in the middle of their mouth, but is stubborn about coming out. All three knocked it out by falling at the same park.

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    We are home - I should have updated sooner. C. got her first laughing gas, had an x-ray to make sure nothing was fractured, and her first injections of lidocaine in the mouth. Her tooth was pulled, but luckily it seems like there was not much other damage. I'm really happy that our dentist came in on a holiday to treat her, although I had to convince her a little bit and I sent her some pictures and she consulted with a pediatric specialist to be sure. She thought it would be okay to wait a few days at first. C. was a trooper during the whole thing, with only a little bit of crying here and there, but now she's having a lot of pain and says she doesn't think she can eat. She says this is a sign that she's getting older, since she lost her tooth. I told her it's not the same if you run head-first into something with your eyes closed.

    I am also a victim of having my teeth knocked out at an early age. I went from about age 2 til 7 with my two front teeth missing. I knocked them out on a friend's coffee table, after crawling rapidly through a play tunnel.

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    Suja, I'm sorry about the present not being the small item you wanted, but for what it's worth, a play kitchen is a pretty good thing to have. I am pretty anti-stuff myself, but I bought a play kitchen and it has brought untold hours of creative play to my kids. If you can somehow find a space for it in your kitchen, it's nice to have them pretend to help cook while you cook, too. Later on, you can have a pretend restaurant, and have them wait on you and even write down orders and bring them back after cooking them. S. can occupy himself for tons of time cooking and cleaning in his kitchen.


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    Well heck, you can't see the missing tooth nearly as well there. But you can see the swollen lip. And I bet you're glad I didn't share the gory ones.


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    L, in my case I lost my front tooth at 6 and it grew in, horizontally, at 10. I used the hole to chew on my pencil and the tooth grew in straight out. I also wore braces for five years. Teeth are still not straight. Never were despite all the crazy things my orthodontist did. He just gave up in the end, took them off and left me in peace with crooked teeth.

    Take-home point: Don't let her chew on pencils.

    Suja, I actually think a play kitchen is hands down the best developmental toy for any child Mira's age. So many opportunities for child-centered, creative play. I get why you're annoyed with your SIL for not discussing it with you, though.
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    I really am okay with the kitchen. I just don't know why she asked for input, if the plan was to ignore it. I had mostly moved all the toys from the living room to the foyer, and now this is back in there. There is no way to put it in the kitchen, unfortunately. Mira does like it a lot, and hopefully, she will continue to play with it.

    Poor C! Glad the news was not bad as it initially seemed.

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    Yes, toy kitchens are a good, longstanding toy. Ours goes through phases of use, then gets dusty, then becomes a hot spot again.

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    Big day for C! Even though the tooth wasn't lost by natural causes it's still a big deal to her, I bet.

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    Aw, she's a trooper. I can see her swollen lip and a little of the tooth gap. Do you do the tooth fairy?
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    So many teeth accidents in here! Glad C is ok. So sweet how she is forcing those swollen lips into a smile for the camera. Kai knocked out his 2 bottom teeth 2 summers ago. So much blood when they do that. It scared me. I took him to the ER and they were like, "yeah, you need to go to the dentist." lol...kind of "duh" moment there.Tomorrow I'm taking my 3+1 to a play downtown Madison. Eeeek. Wish me luck.

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    Bridget, you are one brave soul! Hope it's a lot of fun.

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    C. believes in the tooth fairy wholeheartedly, and she got a little tiny pink plastic treasure box from our dentist to put the tooth in, to keep it from getting lost under her pillow. To be extra safe, she put the tooth in the box and then put the whole shebang inside a huge gift bag, under her pillow. DH and I were just discussing this. He wanted to put a dollar under there. I said we should give her $5. He was aghast. I think C. will still be expecting something else, like a personal note or a whole room re-decoration with balloons and stuff, but I haven't been able to leave the house since we got home and I don't want to set the bar too high and a note would just give it away that it's us.


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    Do you have any glitter to sprinkle around the money so it looks more like a fairy left it? Just a little bit would do.

    "Any idiot can face a crisis; it is this day-to-day living that wears you out." -Anton Chekhov


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    Ah, of course I have glitter, but I read your message too late and I have taken the tooth and replaced the money inside the gift bag. I think her initial disappointment of finding the gift bag still there will make the joy of finding the money all the more exciting.

    Just because I felt like it, and because my mom spent some time at Christmas transferring some old baby pictures of me onto a disk as a present, I have at hand proof of me as a toddler with missing teeth!



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    Oh, let me tell you, it sounded awful! Even before I got a glimpse of the damage, I knew that hurt... Poor C!! And yes, she was quite the trooper. She even told me at one point "I'm excited, because now I have a loose tooth." I didn't want to tell her it's not the same, I didn't have the heart, as she was standing there all swollen and bloody...

    I'm glad I helped somewhat, I just wish I could have helped more. Maybe I should have walked back with you, after all!

    Once you left, we missed you all a lot. And Maiya has been telling Claire's story all day. She's been describing it, most of the time, as "Claire bumped in to the bubbles", which has confused a lot of people as to how that could hurt! They don't realize "the bubbles" are on a 7ft tall solid metal mushroom with little solid metal "leaves" sticking out right at tooth level... She's been saying "poor thing" at random intervals through the evening, too, and wishing her a speedy recovery ("I hope she feels better soon!"). After telling the story about 30 times, I finally got it recorded... But by then she was pretty much zoning out, as it was close to bed time, and not that cute. But suffice it to say, we are thinking about Claire!

    L, you and C are both adorable!

    Also, thank you for the Potette. Maiya loves it, and calls it "the potty from S", and has been using it just to use it! Which is good, good practice, so maybe she'll be comfortable with it out on one of our walks.

    Suja, I hate when people do that. Seriously, why even ask??? Maybe they just wanted "ideas", but then thought they found something even better... Like they know better than you!! Hopefully Mira gets lots of good use out of her kitchen!



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    Awwww, L you were a cutie pie!!

    How is C feeling today?

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    ....And we can't go because the roads are awful. It's blustery snow and the mom of the little girl I take care of just called me to say there are cars going off the road all over the place. Then my dad called and said to stay home. DANG. I'm out $50 and we miss the show

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    Oh no! Can you call them and see if they'll exchange the tickets? I'm sure you're not the only ones who couldn't attend due to the weather.

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