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LuTruPeMo
01-12-2009, 11:34 AM
I think there ARE always people thinking we should control our kids better. It's hard not to feel that way. Our kids did better than last week. Penny fell asleep at the end of sacrament meeting though so she didn't go to nursery. She slept in my lap through SS and then went to priesthood with David. He said she was really good the whole time. Truman is fine to go to nursery w/out her, but she freaks if he's not there.

So my best friend - we've been friends since we were 12, so about 19 years now, hold CRAP is that true??? :) - is getting married in September and asked me to be a bridesmaid. She knew I wear garments so she's tried really hard to find something suitable for me, but it's hard. The store she's going with - David's Bridal - has NO sleeved dresses or tops, at all. Not even little cap sleeves! They do have wraps, which I don't think will work because there would still be that area in front of the armpit showing, and in a halter or sleeveless top, my G would show... or little jackets. Which are cute but I'd feel like the 'mother of the bride' especially as the only bridesmaid wearing one. She's going to have each of us a little differently dressed - all same colors, but different styles to suit our bodies or personalities. I think it's a great idea. I just hope it works out. David said if it's not possible he thinks it'd be ok to be sleeveless for a few hours once in my life. :) I agree with him. I'll just try every other avenue first. It's so frustrating! I'm sure there are lots of NON Mormons out there who don't want to show off their arms/shoulders for whatever reasons!

EvandAl
01-12-2009, 08:13 PM
I know my MIL gave in and wore a tank top dress for her sisters wedding because she knew it would have caused a fight with them and she decided it wasn't worth it and just went with it :laugh:

BrandiB
01-13-2009, 10:47 AM
Thanks for the congrats ladies!

rhiaofthewoods
01-20-2009, 12:38 PM
I thought David's Bridal was one that would put sleeves on any style if you wanted.

Thaby
01-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Just to say Hi!!!
I'm LDS too.:silly:

BrandiB
01-22-2009, 11:54 AM
Just to say Hi!!!
I'm LDS too.:silly:

Hi Thaby, welcome!

LuTruPeMo
01-22-2009, 01:10 PM
I thought David's Bridal was one that would put sleeves on any style if you wanted.

Nope.

They have these very ugly jackets that only come in 2 colors. My friend could use one of those two colors in her wedding, but it would look really, really strange. I'd look like a bullfighter. :)

It's not that big of a deal, for a few hours once in my life. I feel ok about it. I don't wear them when I do other things, yk? So, I don't feel it's wrong. Just a personal choice. It would have been nice if they (David's) had thought that maybe someone doesn't want to always wear sleeveless/strapless gowns though!

EvandAl
01-23-2009, 12:20 PM
Just to say Hi!!!
I'm LDS too.:silly:

Hello, Hello :hi:

LuTruPeMo
01-25-2009, 02:30 PM
We had a horrible sacrament meeting today! Not even our fault either, this time. :)

There was a youth speaker, IDK what he said because Lucy had to pee right after the sacrament so I missed his talk. Then this woman talked. I guess she's employed by the church to clean the building. She said her hours have been cut and she works 4 hours one week and 8 hours the next. Anyway, her entire talk was about her annoyance with our ward and how we disrespect the building. She had a long list of complaints about us - eating in the chapel, kids running in the hall, kids bouncing balls, kids using crayons (I got the distinct impression she has something against KIDS) - people leaving fingernail clippings on the floor (I have to admit I agreed with her on that one, ewww). It was just horrible - not edifying at all, and not once did she ever say anything like "I'm not perfect about this..." It was all, "You may not be the ones DOING these things, but you should be the ones CLEANING UP after someone else!" I just kept thinking, geez lady, isn't this your JOB? Sure we could all use reminders about keeping the building clean and being respectful, but she was just really angry and bitter and used it as a chance to get things off her chest.

The next guy who spoke talked about reverence during sacrament meeting, and it was pretty good. Just reminding us to remember the atonement. But even he said, "I realize Sister ___ didn't want to say the things she said to us today, but it's important..." like making excuses for what she just did.

Whew.

So how was YOUR sacrament meeting today? Did everyone make it? :)

BrandiB
01-25-2009, 09:25 PM
I did not make it. I'm having a hard time with my bladder still and I dont want to take the baby to church yet. I havent had a problem taking him out to the store but for some reason I have a really hard time taking him to church because I know EVERYONE will want to touch him. I have lived in this ward my entire life so everyone knows who I am.

moosh34
01-25-2009, 10:39 PM
We had Stake Conference today. I thought it was pretty nice. We sat in the gym part and watched on a big screen even though we weren't too far back to see the pulpit with reasonable clarity. DS was fairly well-behaved for two hours and it didn't even seem too noisy in the gym...so all in all, it was nice.

DucksLikeRain
01-25-2009, 11:13 PM
Weird talk, Heather...weird. At all the buildings around here we all clean every week. We have to sign up. Each ward takes a month and 2 or 3 families sign up for each Saturday and clean all the rooms, vacuum, empty garbage, wash windows, clean bathrooms, etc. It's been that way for pushing 10 years now, I think!

We made it-early in fact! We knew that Keira was singing in Sacrament with the Primary because they never got to sing for Christmas-weather cancellations-and so my parents were coming. Good thing because when we got there the ward choir director handed John his narration for the entire choir Christmas program :shocker: Never had he been called in the last month to be told that it'd be going on today! Never had I been told there were any choir practices going on that I was missing! So yeah...shocked. Good thing my parents and brother/SIL were on their way to sit with the girls while John was narrating and I was singing in the choir! Oh, and so I also ended up being the lone spring green in the sea of jewel toned-wearing choir women...nice, Tif :shame: Lovely.

But Keira did great! She knows "When Joseph Went to Bethlehem" by heart! All the verses! And has only been in primary 3 weeks! Not so hot on "He Sent His Son" but that's ok....Scharae had to wander up to the front. I thought she'd stop at John but she had to push her way through the primary kids and weasel her way in to be next to Keira to be at the front :laugh:

Oh, and 1/2 hour before church I got a call telling me that my RS teacher wasn't showing up...so yeah...I got to teach on the fly (and if you remember...that's a mortal fear of mine second only to speaking in chruch....shaking in my boots, I was). It went ok, but I am sooooo glad that it's over...

moosh34
01-26-2009, 12:41 AM
At all the buildings around here we all clean every week. We have to sign up. Each ward takes a month and 2 or 3 families sign up for each Saturday and clean all the rooms, vacuum, empty garbage, wash windows, clean bathrooms, etc.

That's how it goes down where I am too, though we are new in this ward...but my parents live fairly close and I think they used to have paid custodians a few years ago and have been phasing it out. I think it's all assigned to the ward members now.

EvandAl
01-26-2009, 07:52 AM
I agree that was a weird, weird talk Heather.

I had a GREAT time at church yesterday :hooray:
At first I was starting to feel lazy and think that we may stay home, but then I really felt guilty. John kept saying he wanted to stay home too which suprised me, he loves church. But once I reminded him that he was going to see his friends he was all for going. So we went and sacrament was a little rough, John was a little more bouncy than normal, but it seemed that all the kids were a little wired yesterday so we fit right in :laugh:. And then when sacrament was over I totally decided to go out of my comfort zone and went up and introduced myself to a woman who I was told lives right by me and has 2 young kids (plus she's my visting teacher). And she was SUPER sweet! So we are going to try to get together sometime soon. I seriously need some church friends!
Then I took John to nursery and since he still wants me in there I've just been hanging out with him and leaving for a little bit here and there so he gets used to it. Well there is another mom doing the same thing, only her soon is 18 months and I noticed that he had on a cloth diaper. So again I decided to strike up a conversation and it was great. It turns out that she is also pregnant and due like 3 days after me. And so we started talking even more. It turns out they are a total AP/NFL family and she is thinking of doing a homebirth this time. So it was another nice meeting!
Made me very thankful that I got up off my rear and went!
Sorry I just wrote a book :P

LuTruPeMo
01-27-2009, 08:11 AM
I did not make it. I'm having a hard time with my bladder still and I dont want to take the baby to church yet

I'm sorry you are still having trouble with your bladder! :(


We had Stake Conference today. I thought it was pretty nice. We sat in the gym part and watched on a big screen even though we weren't too far back to see the pulpit with reasonable clarity. DS was fairly well-behaved for two hours and it didn't even seem too noisy in the gym...so all in all, it was nice.

I've never had such a great stake conference! Good for you guys! We always really struggle with SC. It's like being in hard chairs in the gym makes our kids go bonkers.


Weird talk, Heather...weird. At all the buildings around here we all clean every week. We have to sign up. Each ward takes a month and 2 or 3 families sign up for each Saturday and clean all the rooms, vacuum, empty garbage, wash windows, clean bathrooms, etc. It's been that way for pushing 10 years now, I think!

I wasn't too clear on this lady's job either. Because our ward also cleans the building every week. In fact, right before sacrament meeting, the clerk handed us a schedule, and our family and 3 others are on there for cleaning it one week in September, and there are families listed for every week for the entire year. So I really don't know what this lady does. In our last ward, families were asked to clean the chapel each week but I think they paid someone to clean the bathrooms and classrooms. I have no idea why it's divided like that.

But hey WTG on the teaching thing! That would be awful to have to teach with no warning whatsoever!

Al - yippee for church friends! :hooray:That's great.

EvandAl
02-08-2009, 12:42 PM
Just wanted to say :hi:
I was thinking of you guys today while at church!

oh and I forgot I totally have to rant to you guys. Can I say that I think our Nursery is totally unorganized!?! We have a small building so the nursery room is pretty small and there are like 13 to 14 kids! Then today only 1 teacher showed up and they didn't even ask anyone to come help her. So a few of us parents stayed to help. The teacher that was there is REALLY nice and good with the kids but she was totally in over her head today. I've been really wanting to make it to Relief Society since John is getting really comfortable in there but I hated to leave her in there with no help! Then besides this week there is usually only one other teacher in there with the sister today and she is older and very obese (please don't bash I have nothing against her personally) but she has a really hard time playing with the kids because she just sits in a chair. And it seems like they never have a lesson planned. If they do one it's just something totally on the fly and then they color on some paper plates because they have no paper in there for them to color on.

Am I thinking it should be more than it is?? I mean John loves going there because he gets to play with his friends, I just know when I've gone to my in-laws ward they are always super organized and have cool stuff for the kids to do.

Oh and I did find out that another sister is due the same week as me, so that makes 3 of us due in one week there :)

LuTruPeMo
02-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Whoa three in one week! If anyone is TTC, go to Evandal's ward! :)

I think that nursery does sound lame. Ours had 12 kids for 2 weeks straight (thanks to us moving in with 2 nursery age kids!) and so they split them into two groups - so Pen is in the group under 2.5 yrs and Truman is in the older group. The older kids use another classroom, so they can't use the 'we only have one nursery room' excuse yk? They just move some of the toys and chairs into the other room. They shouldn't need a bathroom anyway b/c they aren't supposed to take children potty or change diapers so there's no excuse for an overcrowded nursery!

BrandiB
02-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Oh how I miss my nursery calling. I gave lessons every sunday, they may have only been about 5-10 mins but when you have that many kids its hard to keep their attention. We ALWAYS had 2 leaders, if one was going to be gone then we found a sub. If I ever needed paper for the kids to color on then we would go to the library and get it. In the summer we would go outside for nature walks. Do you dare say anything to them?

moosh34
02-08-2009, 09:20 PM
I agree with Heather, that nursery should be split. I think that's too many kids for 2 leaders...there should be at least 3 (or 4 if split) but maybe the Primary Pres is already having a hard time finding people to accept that calling, idk. When I taught nursery and in my ward now the nursery schedule was something like: playtime for about 30-40 minutes, music time for 15 (with the primary chorister in our ward right now), then lesson 5-10 minutes, then snack time and then an activity (usually coloring).

BrandiB
02-09-2009, 11:17 AM
I agree with Heather, that nursery should be split. I think that's too many kids for 2 leaders...there should be at least 3 (or 4 if split) but maybe the Primary Pres is already having a hard time finding people to accept that calling, idk. When I taught nursery and in my ward now the nursery schedule was something like: playtime for about 30-40 minutes, music time for 15 (with the primary chorister in our ward right now), then lesson 5-10 minutes, then snack time and then an activity (usually coloring).

Thats how it was in our ward as well. The kids LOVE singing time!!

EvandAl
02-09-2009, 11:40 AM
I think part of it may be an issue of them giving the calling to those who just don't want it and aren't showing up, idk. Yesterday a lady from primary was in there saying that 4 people have a nursery calling and they like for at least 3 of them to be in the room each week. But I have been taking John in there since around November and only once was there 3 people in there.

This was there schedule. They play for the whole first hour, then singing time right at the top of the 2nd hour (with the primary music leader and she is AWESOME), then lesson, color snack and more random play until parents come. Although like I said most of the time the lesson hardly happens or they are trying to pick something like 15 minutes before (I know this is true since I've been in there). I know one week they did try to go to the library to have some copies made and the library was closed HA.

Oh well I'm not going to worry too much over it. As long as John is having fun and happy I'm fine.

DucksLikeRain
02-21-2009, 11:47 PM
gripe gripe gripe gripe.

There, I just needed to get that out. I really enjoy my calling right now (Education Counselor in RS) but there are just somethings that I needed to gripe about...and instead of actually doing it...maybe the words will make me feel like I did?

Well, I'll gripe about one thing. There's a counselor in the Bishopric driving me nutso. He flatout will say that he "considers anything RS related to be completely optional for his wife and the wife of any other man in the church." :shock: :mad: How's that for tearing down our already weak sister-base in our ward? Coming essentially straight from the pulpit!? We have a pretty weak RS in our ward. And this man doesn't help things. He's got some other redeeming qualities...but...yeah. Right now we, RS as a collective, are having an issue with him that the Pres is taking to the Bishop because when we sat down with this man by himself he literally laughed in our faces and was all "I was completely joking....none of the men take anything that gets said about RS seriously anyhow." So yeah...anyhow...maybe I should have just stuck with "gripe gripe gripe" and not gone into any details? I dunno....it's tough because I've sustained him. And I do...but I just feel he's pretty misguided right now as far as all this goes. And watching how he treats his wife...and knowing that's what his 4 boys are growing up with. Ok, my mouth needs to shut up now....

On another note....YW president was supposed to be teaching the RS lesson tomorrow. 4th Sunday YW and RS meet together for opening and then the Laurels and leaders stay on and we rotate months on who teaches. I gave her a schedule for the entire year in DECEMBER. It clearly states that she teaches this month. I emailed her the conference talk 2 weeks ago and followed up early this last week. 3 hours ago she called me telling me she realized she spaced it and she's out of town and I need to teach for her because the Laurel advisor is a flight attendant and is out on a flight. Nice. I gave this to her months ago. She doesn't teach again until May. I gave her how much notice? She even said "If I'd realized I had anything to do at church tomorrow we wouldn't have gone out of town." :eyebrow: I TOLD YOU! I sent you how many extra reminders that weren't actually necessary!?

gripe gripe gripe.

I like my calling right now. I really do...really. Not just saying that...

EvandAl
02-22-2009, 08:53 AM
Okay that counselor :shocker:. What a jerk. :pokey:. He needs to read some talks from some general auth. and see how important RS really is!
Actually speaking of I meant to come on here and put up a part of a book I'm reading that has a wonderful part about the importance of women and motherhood (written by a man). I'll have to come back in a little bit and do that!

And I would so want to slap that woman HAHA (very nice thing to say right). Nothing bothers me more when people try to act stupid and pretend they didn't realize that had to do something.

I have to admit we are totally skipping church today :shame:. I was already just not feeling like going last night. We leave in 2 days to go out of town and I really should be paying bills and packing. Then John slept until 9 this morning :shocker: and we have to leave by 9:30 so I knew there was no way we'd make it.
I'm soooo happy that next week we will be in FL and I get to go to church with all my in laws. John gets in more trouble there (wants to play with all his cousins) but it's nice to not sit alone :)

katrina131h
02-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Okay that counselor :shocker:. What a jerk. :pokey:. He needs to read some talks from some general auth. and see how important RS really is!
Actually speaking of I meant to come on here and put up a part of a book I'm reading that has a wonderful part about the importance of women and motherhood (written by a man). I'll have to come back in a little bit and do that!

And I would so want to slap that woman HAHA (very nice thing to say right). Nothing bothers me more when people try to act stupid and pretend they didn't realize that had to do something.



My thoughts exactly. I would be furious if I heard any man say that, let alone a member of the bishopric. How is RS not important?!?!?! I love that there is a class of just women learning together, becoming closer to Christ while improving ourselves and our families. The bonds that we form in RS are so important. Women need each other.

As for that lady it totally sounds like she remembered and just waited until she had the excuse to get out of it, but maybe not. I shouldn't judge. It just seems with all the reminders how could she really forget? And I think it is just rude to call someone and say, nope, can't do it. If I were in the situation where I really forgot I would be doing anything I could to find someone to cover for me. I wouldn't just call someone and say "sorry won't be there figure something out". :pokey:

I hope the lesson went well.

LuTruPeMo
02-22-2009, 04:42 PM
Tif that bishopric guy sounds lame. :( And I can say that 'cause I didn't sustain him. :)

Al I hope you have a great trip!

Katrina are you due in 10 days? What the hey??? How are you feeling?

So today the RS president tried to strong-arm me into signing up for a visiting teaching interview this afternoon with the RS presidency. They've been pushing this for a couple of weeks now and today is the day they're doing them all. She's kind of... not pushy, but yeah, kind of. :) She's Spanish (born & raised in Spain until she was 20) so I think it's partly cultural too, just a different Euro vibe or something. Anyway, I told her I had not signed up because I didn't know what the point would be for me. I just got a VT list last week, and my companion said she can't go until March so she'd make the appointments (she knows everyone on the list and I just moved here last month). So I haven't met any of the sisters. And I really can't even speak as to how it's going to work out with my companion at this point. She seemed like of deflated that I had valid reasons for not going. I wasn't trying to skip out, I just really didn't think there would be anything for me to talk about!

Tomorrow we get to drive up to Bloomington again. We get to do this every week (it's supposed to be every 2 weeks but that hasn't been the case) until May when DH shows his thesis project at the museum. Sheesh. Grad school is getting OLD! My husband looks rough too, ladies. Bloodshot eyes. He's kind of irritable with me and the kids.Not terribly bad, he's still a good guy... but lack of sleep wears on a person. (

katrina131h
02-22-2009, 09:33 PM
Katrina are you due in 10 days? What the hey??? How are you feeling?



Thanks for asking! I'm feeling pretty good. The odd thing is about a week ago I felt so miserable I was going to bed in tears almost every night, and now I'm feeling pretty comfy. Some nights are hard and I have to waddle for a little bit when I get up from sitting, but other than that pretty good. I'm trying not to think about how close I am, or could be because it makes me frustrated. Today was hard because EVERYONE at church was telling me how they were secretly hoping I wouldn't be there today, lol. I just try to think that I will go overdue so I'm not obsessing about going early. I do think he dropped lower today because his movements are lower than they were yesterday.

So will your DH be done in May? Sleep deprivation is so hard and then add the stress of Grad school and his thesis, and traveling, and moving, and everything else, I'm sure your DH is worn down :hugs:. That is kind of funny about VT interviews, maybe they are just trying to get to know you better. :dunno:

DucksLikeRain
02-28-2009, 01:44 AM
Tomorrow morning is our Stake RS Temple Day and I have made a goal to go. It will only be the 2nd time I've gone since Taela died 16 months ago. I really NEED to go, ya know?

The hitch? K's sick with a major cough that has got her puking from coughing so bad...and Scharae has started coughing tonight too and her asthma gets the better of her when that happens. I started preemptive nebulizer treatments before bed...but I don't know that'll really head it off. It's a pretty nasty chest cold that Keira's passed along to her. I'm not sick, so no problem there. But...the only time John's ever dealt with a puking sick kid is when I've been home to handle the other one. I have no doubts of his parenting capabilities...just...I dunno. They're sick, ya know? And I'm the mama. BUT...he's the dad and I think it's important for both him and them to be able to handle that. BUT he's also working until at least 2am before driving an hour home. So I worry that his patience with them will be a little shorter than it otherwise would be since he'll be lucky to have 4 hours of sleep before I'm gone from the house and he needs to be up.

Our ward Temple night is on Tuesday and we're hoping to make it that night together, but it's not a sure thing because this is a busy busy time of year for him with work so I really really want to make it tomorrow by myself....

Don't know what I'm looking for here (or even if any of you ladies will get on before tomorrow morning!)...some thoughts, encouragement? The Temple is a hard place for me to go-harder than church-has been since we lost Taela. And yet I know very deeply that it's where I NEED to go...

LuTruPeMo
02-28-2009, 12:34 PM
Tif I hope you made it okay! I'm sure John will be blessed with energy & patience while you are gone. Be sure to let us know how it goes.

Our 10th anniv is coming up in April and we also haven't been to the temple in almost a year. So I felt like, geez, we should go to the temple for our anniversary. But part of me didn't want to because we've done that other years, AND (and this is selfish) we already drive pretty far weekly or biweekly while D is finishing his thesis. So I hate the idea of a long drive as a 'treat' for us yk? Lame, lame, lame I know.
But lo and behold, our ward has organized a ward temple day in March, AND the youth will be babysitting at the chapel next door to the temple. So we're planning to go then, and that way our kids get to visit the temple grounds as well. Then in April we'll be totally selfish and have a weekend away and massages or something. ;) Win-win.

DucksLikeRain
02-28-2009, 06:18 PM
That's an awesome ward temple day, Heather! How far to the Temple is it for you?

So...my morning sucked rocks.

First...I made it to there in time to meet in the cafeteria for breakfast but I've never eaten at one before and assumed they'd be like every other place in this world and not take checks but take cards...DUMB. I thought I had some cash up in the locker so when the lady in front of me offered to pay I told her not to worry about it and I'd just go get my cash-she was going to hold my place in line. I got up there and realized I'd left my cash in the car :doh: But didn't really want to eat after that and was too proud/embarrassed to go back to find the lady to tell her, plus I was sure she'd already gone through the line. So I went to the Chapel to wait. Got there about 8:20 and was told to sit in the back of since I was waiting for the 9am session. So I did that. After the 8:30 people were gone I was told to just stay where I was because people would start coming in and it'd be no big deal. So I did. And sure enough, they all came in. And came in, and came in. Full session. Overfull session. And because I was at the back and hadn't moved forward because I was told not to then I didn't get into that session. And again, those of us that were left were asked to stay at the back of the chapel and they marked the row to start with and new people were to fill in from the front. So I stayed in the back like I was told to while most the other people moved to the front of the marked rows. So....again, didn't make the 9:30 session. Too many people. I was literally THE ONLY ONE LEFT. The male worker wanted to pull a chair in since I was there for a Stake session but the sister said it was "against fire regulations". I nearly burst into tears right then and there. I worked so hard getting myself there. And not bursting into tears from furstration/embarrassment over the cafeteria thing, and then the first session thing. And then that. And I happen to KNOW there were at least 5 COUPLES that went into that 2nd session that weren't even from our stake. Couples that should have sat out and waited for the 10am session. But they slipped in from the other side of the chapel and just went along. So I left. I gave back my name, made up some bogus excuse about a sick child at home that I just couldn't wait for yet another session. And went to my car and just burst into tears. And of course called John and so now-because this is his first reaction to these things-he doesn't want to go to the Temple anymore, definitely not on Tuesday night for our Ward Temple night. I'm sort of over it and am working on him being over it too. I should have known better than to call him so upset. He has a bad habit, that is a throwback from his mother, of getting initially offended by this type of thing. He just thinks it was so disorganized and a mess. I agree, but I think most the problem was that the Temple has been closed for 6 weeks (it was only supposed to be 3) for some renovations that took longer than expected and today was the first day open again, so lots more people showed up than expected, both for the stake thing and just in general. But still...I worked so hard to get there. I know it's not all about me. And it's not really all about the fact that I followed directions and others didn't...but...I just shouldn't have left feeling like that, ya know?

katrina131h
02-28-2009, 08:53 PM
:hugs: I'm so sorry Tif. I would have cried too. That is so frustrating especially after how difficult it was for you to go in the first place. I wish I lived close to you. I would totally come and watch your girls so that you could go again. I hope you get another chance soon. :hugs:

BrandiB
03-10-2009, 09:59 PM
So how does everyone feel about the show Big Love and how they are showing temple ordinances?

LuTruPeMo
03-11-2009, 08:23 AM
I hate the idea of that show in the first place. And Tom Hanks recently made some rude remarks about members of the Church (about prop 8), and he's the producer of the show, so it all makes sense, really.
There's a really good article in response to it at the LDS Newsroom site, if you haven't seen it already.
And I know the endowment is available (verbatim script at least) online and has been for years. A lot of members are pretty upset about the Big Love thing, but I guess to me it's all symbolic anyway and if they have no idea what they are doing, it's meaningless, yk? I did hear that in TV Guide it said the show employed a former member of the Church for consultation on accuracy or something along those lines. So that person probably has some issues to work out in the next life. :)

DucksLikeRain
03-11-2009, 11:19 AM
My brother is really gung-ho on getting people to email HBO....me, I'm just whatever about it. It was inevitable, IMO. What bugs me is the fact that they assured the church that the show would have nothing to do with the LDS church...and it is now going back on that. The episode that is going to show the Temple stuff is going to essentially have this lady "outing herself" as far as her polygamy goes to the general church. From what I gathered she's active in the LDS church-NOT a splinter group-and has kept that part of her life hidden but is now going to let it be shown. That bothers me, the fact that they're very obviously NOT honoring the fact that they assured the Church that it would not have anything to do with the actual LDS religion.

BrandiB
03-11-2009, 11:30 AM
My DH last night was looking things up online about it because we are curious and we honestly found a picture of one of the females in temple clothing and its accurate. I hate thinking that they are doing this but I'm with you Heather its all symbolic and they do not have the authority to perform these so it is meaningless. I guess the show is being canceled after this season because ratings are bad anyway. My DH made a good point that Satan can not leave the true church alone and that is why we always seem to be in the spot light about this sort of thing and you do not see other religions in the spot light.
Oh and I did not know that Tom Hanks is the producer of this show, maybe I need to get rid of the movies I own that he's in lol.

EvandAl
03-11-2009, 11:34 AM
Can I admit that I have been a big love fan? We don't have movie channels in our house though anymore so I haven't seen any of this season and have no clue what you guys are talking about...I watched the last season on DVD and wasn't as in love with it as I had been with the first season, so honestly I wasn't planning to watch the new season. I have to say the first season didn't really have much about the church in it, but last season had a little more. I'll have to go check out what you guys are talking about....

BrandiB
03-11-2009, 12:15 PM
Can I admit that I have been a big love fan? We don't have movie channels in our house though anymore so I haven't seen any of this season and have no clue what you guys are talking about...I watched the last season on DVD and wasn't as in love with it as I had been with the first season, so honestly I wasn't planning to watch the new season. I have to say the first season didn't really have much about the church in it, but last season had a little more. I'll have to go check out what you guys are talking about....

On their sunday episode they are showing an endowment session. They said that they will be going into the celestial room and endowment room. They hired an ex-mormon to help them with the detail.

LuTruPeMo
03-11-2009, 02:11 PM
I know some members of the Church believe that all the temple ceremony & clothing is not symbolic - that it's literal and real. I personally don't believe that, don't know if any of you ladies do or not :) and I don't think one way or the other is definitively right. But, I guess for me, yeah it's bothersome that they're making light of something that is very sacred to me. But it's not REAL. It's just TV. I'm more bothered by the real persecution of real members of the Church than fictitious TV shows.

So... speaking of which, when was the last time we went to the temple? Or when do you plan to go again? I'm ashamed to say that we haven't been in fifteen months! Yikes! But we have a ward temple trip this Saturday (Louisville) and our ward's YW are offering babysitting at the chapel right across the street so we are all going as a family. That way our kids get to visit the temple grounds too. We took Lucy over to the St. Louis temple when she was a toddler but Tru & Pen have never been.

Oh and Al - congrats again on the boy!

BrandiB
03-11-2009, 03:19 PM
Heather this is so sad to say but I havent been to the temple in just about as long as what you have. We went to CA to my SIL's endowment session but because I have a new baby I could not go through and I needed to stay out and take care of him, I'm BF and do not have a pump to use. I'm also sad to say that my recommend expires in April and we have not been current on our tithing so will not be able to renew it for a while:( how horrible. I seriously feel soooo bad about this. I understand the blessings in tithing but we have been so far behind because money is tight and we had to move in with my parents. Gosh I hate to say that.

Congrats Al on a boy!!

Oh and Katrina had her baby a few days ago!

LuTruPeMo
03-11-2009, 07:11 PM
Brandi, don't beat yourself up. Actually I'm pretty impressed that you already are thinking ahead to your recommend renewal and planning to get everything in order. I kind of wish we still had to renew yearly because - just me personally - I feel like I need the self-inventory of the recommend questions each time, to keep me on the strait & narrow. :)

I'm a little concerned because of my temple dress - it's a wee bit tight on the top. I've had it for several years (two kids ago) so that's why... and it's not like hootchie-mama or anything :) but there is no clothing rental at the Louisville temple so I'm just going to wear a really supportive bra and hope for the best!

EvandAl
03-11-2009, 08:26 PM
So I read the news article about the episode and totally think it's lame...since I know the most of the storyline behind the character I just think it's dumb.......

So I will have you all beat on the temple since I was inactive for so long. The last time I went, and went IN was.....8 YEARS ago. When DH and I were sealed. I'm pretty positive that I haven't been since. In October we did go to the Atlanta Temple and let John run around on the grounds and just to see it. It makes me sad to think about it. When DH and I were waiting the year to be sealed (we had a civil ceremony) we would drive to Orlando ALL the time and eat dinner in the parking lot and walk around.

I think I could get a recommend now, I can't think of anything that I'm doing to not "qualify". My dh doesn't pay tithing, but tech it's his money not mine, kwim?....but I'm also sad to say I'm one of those people who get soooo nervous while there so I dread to go. :headbang:

EvandAl
03-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Oh and thanks for the Congrats on the boy!!!

Oh and the temple convo made me remember Tif's post about her trip to the temple and I felt so bad for her and was telling my MIL and she was shocked at what happend. My in laws are temple workers twice a month and she thought it was very unorganized of them.

DucksLikeRain
03-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Oh and thanks for the Congrats on the boy!!!

Oh and the temple convo made me remember Tif's post about her trip to the temple and I felt so bad for her and was telling my MIL and she was shocked at what happend. My in laws are temple workers twice a month and she thought it was very unorganized of them.
Aw, thanks for remembering that experience. It was so disorganized. Made John "never want to go back again" :eyeroll: But we did. We actually went last Tuesday which was the first time he and I have gone together since Taela died I think. Maybe the second. I can't remember. We've set a goal to make it to every Ward Temple night. They're doing them the 1st Tuesday of the month and it works well for us because he work just 20 minutes from there and can take the bus, meanwhile I can drive up and pick him up from the stop at the bottom of the hill and get there just in time. My parents are on board with my dad picking the girls up and taking them out to their place for the evening, possibly even overnight, each time, too. Last year our wards always had the same Temple night, and so I never even asked them to. But this year...we're hoping to hit most of them!

I hadn't heard Katrina had her baby! Congrats to her :hooray:

LuTruPeMo
03-12-2009, 07:49 PM
What was this awful temple story? Am I just blanking out or what? :)

Well we're planning to go still... barring anything coming up in the next 36 hours! I'm nervous about the babysitting. I'm always nervous to leave my kids in anyone else's care. The kids are supposed to bring lunch and I know there will be peanut butter. I have special stickers for my kids' lunches and backs that say "NO Peanuts! NO Tree Nuts!" But still... I worry. It would be nice if DH and I could do sealings because our 10th anniversary is coming up next month and it's been a long time since we did those. But, timing wise it may not work out because the babysitting is very limited because another ward is using the building for babysitting right after our ward.

DucksLikeRain
03-12-2009, 11:42 PM
That's an awesome ward temple day, Heather! How far to the Temple is it for you?

So...my morning sucked rocks.

First...I made it to there in time to meet in the cafeteria for breakfast but I've never eaten at one before and assumed they'd be like every other place in this world and not take checks but take cards...DUMB. I thought I had some cash up in the locker so when the lady in front of me offered to pay I told her not to worry about it and I'd just go get my cash-she was going to hold my place in line. I got up there and realized I'd left my cash in the car :doh: But didn't really want to eat after that and was too proud/embarrassed to go back to find the lady to tell her, plus I was sure she'd already gone through the line. So I went to the Chapel to wait. Got there about 8:20 and was told to sit in the back of since I was waiting for the 9am session. So I did that. After the 8:30 people were gone I was told to just stay where I was because people would start coming in and it'd be no big deal. So I did. And sure enough, they all came in. And came in, and came in. Full session. Overfull session. And because I was at the back and hadn't moved forward because I was told not to then I didn't get into that session. And again, those of us that were left were asked to stay at the back of the chapel and they marked the row to start with and new people were to fill in from the front. So I stayed in the back like I was told to while most the other people moved to the front of the marked rows. So....again, didn't make the 9:30 session. Too many people. I was literally THE ONLY ONE LEFT. The male worker wanted to pull a chair in since I was there for a Stake session but the sister said it was "against fire regulations". I nearly burst into tears right then and there. I worked so hard getting myself there. And not bursting into tears from furstration/embarrassment over the cafeteria thing, and then the first session thing. And then that. And I happen to KNOW there were at least 5 COUPLES that went into that 2nd session that weren't even from our stake. Couples that should have sat out and waited for the 10am session. But they slipped in from the other side of the chapel and just went along. So I left. I gave back my name, made up some bogus excuse about a sick child at home that I just couldn't wait for yet another session. And went to my car and just burst into tears. And of course called John and so now-because this is his first reaction to these things-he doesn't want to go to the Temple anymore, definitely not on Tuesday night for our Ward Temple night. I'm sort of over it and am working on him being over it too. I should have known better than to call him so upset. He has a bad habit, that is a throwback from his mother, of getting initially offended by this type of thing. He just thinks it was so disorganized and a mess. I agree, but I think most the problem was that the Temple has been closed for 6 weeks (it was only supposed to be 3) for some renovations that took longer than expected and today was the first day open again, so lots more people showed up than expected, both for the stake thing and just in general. But still...I worked so hard to get there. I know it's not all about me. And it's not really all about the fact that I followed directions and others didn't...but...I just shouldn't have left feeling like that, ya know?

^^that's my awful Temple story. I'm over it now. But it was a really bad experience because it took a lot for me to even get out of the house and go, what with a sick child and John having been at work until 3am and what not. Oh well, though. I've decided that just putting the effort into going gave me blessings. Maybe not the same ones that I would have gotten had I toughed it out and stayed through a third session, but still, some :)

I'm sure the babysitting thing will go fine. But of course you'll worry. I hope timing works out to be able to do some sealings! I haven't done any ever-the only sealing I've participated in was my own. I've attended 2 since then, but that's it. I really need to work on that!

BrandiB
03-14-2009, 11:23 AM
Tif your not alone I havent ever done any sealings other then my own and I've only been to one. Of course now that I can go through as long as my recommend is current which is not in April I can go when my cousins get married and what not.

LuTruPeMo
03-14-2009, 06:17 PM
Tif that is a dreadful experience. And oddly... our temple experience today was somewhat similar! Our ward had a trip, but the temple doesn't allow wards to reserve whole endowment sessions anymore. Also they used to require you to call ahead and reserve a spot, then a few years ago they said don't do that anymore, it'd be first-come, first-served kind of thing. So we didn't call ahead, obviously. We arrived at 10:45 for the 11:30 session, but the parking lot was packed. the temple was packed. Like literally, we were lined up out the door to get in! We heard people saying the 11:30 was full unless you'd called ahead. Um... called ahead? Oh yeah, some old lady temple worker says, "we don't want people to call ahead, but if they do, we save spots for them." :eyeroll:

So David and I were next in line to show our recommends, and David elbows me and points across the foyer. There was a missionary who'd served in our area ten years ago! D was the WML at the time and so we were close to all the elders who were in our ward. His name was Elder Casper. I dont' think we knew his first name. :) He recognized us and came over and asked what we were doing, and we said, "Well we're too late for the session, so we don't know." And he said, "I'm here to be sealed to my wife and baby boy! You should come to my sealing!" So we did! :) We felt kind of like wedding crashers because we didn't know anyone there :laugh: but it was sooooo sweet to see them sealed. And then they brought in their little 14 month old baby boy and every person in the room was just bawling. It was great.

Then we thought we had to leave because the temple was still super packed, but the sealer told us we could go get changed and come back in that room and do proxy sealings if we wanted, and we were like, heck yeah. So we got changed and came back. David and I were able to be the couple for a lady in our ward who is single and needed some sealings done for her family members. So that was pretty great. Then the best part of all... in the middle of it, the sealer asked if he could take a break because he'd been doing sealings all day and wondered if anyone had anything to talk about? It was kind of weird, but someone then asked if he knew the symbolism of some of the temple clothing, and this man went on into great detail all this symbolism that I (or David) never knew! It was so great. He also talked about some other things in the temple (that obviously I won't go into here) that I'd never heard before, but now I have it on good authority. :) It was like our own little private 'explanation of sacred things' or something.

Plus our kids had a great time at the stake center next door! The YW did a really super job with having activities for all the kids to do.

EvandAl
03-14-2009, 06:58 PM
I'm so glad the temple was great for you guys today! That is awesome about running into the missionary for their sealing.

DucksLikeRain
03-14-2009, 11:45 PM
Heather, I'm so glad that what started out to be a rather disappointing experience shaped into such a great one! That's wonderful! And glad that the kids had a good time, too. :)

We're trying to decide if we should ditch our ward tomorrow and go to my parents'. My baby brother is getting hitched on Monday. He deploys soon and was going to get courthoused to his fiancee but then they found out it was going to be nearly $200 on top of the marriage license to do that. My dad told him that the Bishop would do it for free (he's not active and his fiancee isn't a member, although her parents were baptized like 30 years ago...and then never really came to church after that). My brother decided that'd be ok, and she agreed. So anyhow, all the brothers-there's 4 of them total-will be in town, and also my 2 nieces, at my parents' ward. We'd be the only ones missing. So....to ditch or not to ditch? It's not John's week to teach EQ, I shouldn't need to...the only thing I worry about is K and S not doing ok with a strange nursery and Sunbeams. But if it came to that, then we could just do Sacrament. My mom hinted that she'd love to have all 4 of her grandchildren at church with her....that's worth it, right? Like an early Mothers' Day?

LuTruPeMo
03-15-2009, 06:01 AM
You should totally ditch.

DucksLikeRain
03-15-2009, 09:16 AM
Yeah, I think the girls and I are going to. John worked last night from 9:30pm until 6am-he's only had 2 hours of sleep. I think I'm going to shower and get me and the girls ready for their 10am church. And he can go to our 1pm Sacrament if he so desires...or he can totally ditch if he wants.

CRAP! I just realized I've got Welfare meeting at 9am! This won't even work! SHOOT! Why did I have to be so responsible as to remember that???

See, this is one thing I don't understand. I go to Welfare, and you've got one person from each auxiliary attending...if you're lucky...EXCEPT Relief Society. I still don't understand why the entire presidency attends!? Or is that just my whacked out ward???

LuTruPeMo
03-15-2009, 05:58 PM
I think it's your wackadoodle RS Tif. :) I've never had to attend welfare meetings before but I know when D was in presidencies usually just the president went. But if he couldn't go then he asked a counselor to go. One time I had to go some correlation type meeting when I was YW secretary because the other 3 were all either out of town or home with newborn babies!
So what'd you end up doing?

We had pretty good church today! I'm on a spiritual high or something I guess, from the temple yesterday. D and I had to sub in the junior nursery (Penny's) but it actually went pretty well. The kids are all so sweet. Then Truman's nursery leaders brought him to us because he had a fever and said his ear hurt. :( So he stayed with us til church was over. We came home and he wouldn't eat anything. His temp was 102.3 and he barely napped, but he's had Motrin now and is a little peppier. If he still has a temp in the a.m. we get to try and see if our new (never met her) pedi will see him tomorrow. Poor guy. :(

BrandiB
03-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Heather it sounds like your temple experience was really neat! I never made it to all of church but I did make it to sacrament. Preston was blessed on March 1st and it was just perfect but I decided that I still wanted to wait a little bit before I took him back and then today I changed my mind. Its sooo hard to have a new baby in church when everyone wants to see him and touch him. Luckily we did not have to many today like we did when he was blessed.

I sure hope that Truman feels better soon. Preston had a fever on friday but I think it was because of his shots.

BrandiB
03-18-2009, 12:43 PM
So what temple were you sealed in?

DucksLikeRain
03-18-2009, 06:47 PM
I was sealed in the Seattle Temple. How about you?

LuTruPeMo
03-18-2009, 06:54 PM
St. Louis Missouri. That was our temple district in 1999, but now it's Louisville KY. But we still prefer St. Louis when time allows. :)

moosh34
03-18-2009, 10:57 PM
About the welfare meeting...odd coincidence, but my sister just got called to the RS pres and my mom made a comment to her about attending welfare meeting.

Dh and I were sealed in the Jordan River temple.

DucksLikeRain
03-18-2009, 11:23 PM
Yeah, back on the Welfare Mtg thing-I was actually just perusing the Handbook today before my Presidency meeting. Under the Welfare Meeting guidelines it delineates who goes to it and it talks about the president of each of the auxiliaries and the RS presidency-not just president. Weird. But whatever. I ended up skipping this last one, anyhow-I at least called to let the Pres know which is more than she's done a few times :P

So yesterday was our RS Birthday Dinner. We did a service auction. I got my dad to be the auctioneer for us. It was a lot of fun. One of the things I got was the Primary Presidency donated their services of painting a room....um...oops :shame: we're not in the market for a room to be painted other than a bathroom maybe, but they're all too small for 3 ladies to paint in! I would love to paint my kitchen but it's a weird open cathedral ceiling and I don't know what to do with it! So, I got home and told John that we'll have to buy paint now because I have painters all lined up! I'm pretty excited-we've lived here two years and done zero painting because we moved all in before doing any painting and it's hard to really move out of any of the rooms in order to paint.

BrandiB
03-19-2009, 12:40 PM
I was sealed in the Logan Utah temple. I think DH would of really preferred the Sacramento Temple as he's from there and it was brand new but I won lol.

LuTruPeMo
03-19-2009, 01:09 PM
Dh and I were sealed in the Jordan River temple.

I got my endowment there! :)

I'm pretty bummed today. Lucy had this vomiting & diarrhea bug from 1a.m. Tuesday through last night (Wednesday). Today she's finally better. But at 1:30pm Penny threw up and again at 1:45 she threw up. :( And Truman has fallen asleep on the floor after having a huge diarrhea diaper, and DH is basically at work for 24 hours now. Of course, the timing would suck! He leaves at noon on Thursday, gets home really late Thursday night and then leaves early Friday morning, getting home about 12:30. I need strength & sanity to make it through the next 22 hours....

EvandAl
03-19-2009, 07:31 PM
Awww Heather! I hope you are doing okay with your little ones!

We were sealed in the Orlando Temple

BrandiB
03-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Heather I sure hope that your little ones are doing better soon. That is horrible that they are so sick.

LuTruPeMo
03-20-2009, 08:39 AM
Thanks Al & Brandi. Yesterday afternoon and night were really rough! At one point, Penny threw up all over the kitchen floor and I had just finished wiping it up and then spraying bleach water on the area, when Truman announced he was poopy. And the smell, heavens to murgatroyd such a SMELL! - so I changed him, gagging all the while. He'd just stood up to give me a hug and then suddenly says "I need a towel" and barfed all over the place. So I had two pukes and a diarrhea within like three minutes. It was just one after the other with them. They were all in bed, asleep by 7:40.

The best part is that no one threw up all night! Around 9 I went in to check on them and Tru had diarrhea again, so I changed him and he went right back to bed. They mostly slept all night, but each of them woke up crying or mumbling a few times. :( Still, I was expecting to be up all night changing pj's and sheets! (I even had stacks of sheets, blankets, and jammies all laid out on the floor.)

Today, so far, no vomiting, though they both still have the runny poo. :( I'd take that over vomiting any day, though! Hopefully this means that part of it is over.

DucksLikeRain
03-20-2009, 11:30 AM
Oh yuck, Heather :hugs: Do you think it's rota? Ick. I hate when kiddos are sick!

moosh34
03-20-2009, 11:46 AM
Hmmm...why am I always having similar conversations with my mother? She was telling me last night that right after we moved away from family and my dad had to be away a lot for training that I kept getting sick...like every time he was gone. She also had three kids at the time (ages 4, 2, and baby). Sound familiar, Heather? I'm sure my mom would understand what an icky time you've been having. I hope your kids are on the mend now.

EvandAl
03-20-2009, 11:51 AM
Sooo glad the kids made it all night without puking! I can handle runny poop any day but puke pushes me over the edge.

Hope they are having a restfull day today

motherof5
04-01-2009, 11:54 AM
Hi - I'm not new to APA but I am new to this board. I just wanted to introduce myself and say hi to everyone.

I'm LDS born and raised, however I'm not currently active. We currently live in Oregon but are from Arizona. It's strange not to see a mormon church on every corner after living in Az for so long.

Anyway - Hello everyone :hi:

BrandiB
04-02-2009, 11:13 AM
Hi - I'm not new to APA but I am new to this board. I just wanted to introduce myself and say hi to everyone.

I'm LDS born and raised, however I'm not currently active. We currently live in Oregon but are from Arizona. It's strange not to see a mormon church on every corner after living in Az for so long.

Anyway - Hello everyone :hi:

Hello and welcome to the group!

moosh34
04-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Hi - I'm not new to APA but I am new to this board. I just wanted to introduce myself and say hi to everyone.

I'm LDS born and raised, however I'm not currently active. We currently live in Oregon but are from Arizona. It's strange not to see a mormon church on every corner after living in Az for so long.

Anyway - Hello everyone :hi:

:hi: Welcome.

I've been trying to reply for like 2 or 3 days and I always got a db error when I tried to view the last page of this thread. I'm glad it's working again.

LuTruPeMo
04-04-2009, 01:43 PM
Welcome! I'd love to hear about your DH's V reversal if you would like to share... we are considering it ourselves but unsure about success rates, etc.

DucksLikeRain
04-04-2009, 02:33 PM
Hi - I'm not new to APA but I am new to this board. I just wanted to introduce myself and say hi to everyone.

I'm LDS born and raised, however I'm not currently active. We currently live in Oregon but are from Arizona. It's strange not to see a mormon church on every corner after living in Az for so long.

Anyway - Hello everyone :hi:

Welcome! We're not too far away-down in Salem. Maybe this summer some time we can plan a meet up-there's a number of ladies on APA that live up in the Hillsboro/Portland area!

LuTruPeMo
04-04-2009, 06:52 PM
Welcome! We're not too far away-down in Salem. Maybe this summer some time we can plan a meet up-there's a number of ladies on APA that live up in the Hillsboro/Portland area!

What up, Ducks? Why the new name? :eyebrow:

BrandiB
04-04-2009, 07:20 PM
So on wed we took my SIL to the MTC. Wow I sobbed like a baby haha, and its not like she even lives near me she's like 10 hour drive away. What a great experience though and it really makes me not want 19 years to come for a LONG LONG TIME!!

How is everyone else doing?

motherof5
04-04-2009, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome ladies. It's nice to find a thread where being "mother of 5" isn't looked upon as being a bad thing! :laugh:
DucksLikeRain - a meet up sounds great... I'm actually begining to get hopeful that it may turn nice here soon. I was begining to wonder if it would ever stop raining. :truce:
LuTruPeMo - the vasectomy reversals were deffinately an experience... for DH of course, I just sat in the waiting room during the procedures, and went into the lab when they got into each side so they could show me the sperm sample on a big monitor.

DH had his first reversal in March 2000, three weeks before we got married and 5 months later I was pregnant with DS. A year later, we decided we wanted to try again but after another year of trying, we decided to have a SA done and found that he had developed total blockage on both sides... SA count of 0. DH was sad and I was devistated because I really believed that there was one more waiting to join our family. But we each had two kids from our previous marriages and our DS together... and by that time DSD had one son which I think made DH think we had to stop since he was now a grandpa... but I just couldn't get the thought out of my head that there was another little soul waiting to join our family.

So we finally decided to call the reversal specialist that had performed the first procedure to see what he thought we could do and what our chances were. He said that since we both had 2 kids each and had conceived DS after the last reversal, he felt we should have a 90% chance of conceiving after another reversal. So we decided to try one more time. But unfortunately things didn't work out exactly how we had planned... DH lost his job 2 months after the procedure. :headbang: So we weren't really 'trying' but once again, 5 months after the second reversal I was pregnant but m/c'd at 10.5 weeks. :ohno: We've been TTC ever since with no luck. I've had 3 rounds of Clomid with BFN's and will be moving on to IUI next month. I'm really hoping this is it because DH and I have both agreed that if 3 rounds of IUI don't work, then we are done... it wasn't meant to be. I'm having a lot harder time with this than DH but I know have to quit at some point... I just don't understand how you can feel something so strongly for so long just to have it not be meant to be. :dunno:

DucksLikeRain
04-05-2009, 01:01 AM
What up, Ducks? Why the new name? :eyebrow:

eh, I was bored of Tif...I mean...I hear it day in and day out...time for something new!


Thanks for the warm welcome ladies. It's nice to find a thread where being "mother of 5" isn't looked upon as being a bad thing! :laugh:
DucksLikeRain - a meet up sounds great... I'm actually begining to get hopeful that it may turn nice here soon. I was begining to wonder if it would ever stop raining. :truce:
LuTruPeMo - the vasectomy reversals were deffinately an experience... for DH of course, I just sat in the waiting room during the procedures, and went into the lab when they got into each side so they could show me the sperm sample on a big monitor.

DH had his first reversal in March 2000, three weeks before we got married and 5 months later I was pregnant with DS. A year later, we decided we wanted to try again but after another year of trying, we decided to have a SA done and found that he had developed total blockage on both sides... SA count of 0. DH was sad and I was devistated because I really believed that there was one more waiting to join our family. But we each had two kids from our previous marriages and our DS together... and by that time DSD had one son which I think made DH think we had to stop since he was now a grandpa... but I just couldn't get the thought out of my head that there was another little soul waiting to join our family.

So we finally decided to call the reversal specialist that had performed the first procedure to see what he thought we could do and what our chances were. He said that since we both had 2 kids each and had conceived DS after the last reversal, he felt we should have a 90% chance of conceiving after another reversal. So we decided to try one more time. But unfortunately things didn't work out exactly how we had planned... DH lost his job 2 months after the procedure. :headbang: So we weren't really 'trying' but once again, 5 months after the second reversal I was pregnant but m/c'd at 10.5 weeks. :ohno: We've been TTC ever since with no luck. I've had 3 rounds of Clomid with BFN's and will be moving on to IUI next month. I'm really hoping this is it because DH and I have both agreed that if 3 rounds of IUI don't work, then we are done... it wasn't meant to be. I'm having a lot harder time with this than DH but I know have to quit at some point... I just don't understand how you can feel something so strongly for so long just to have it not be meant to be. :dunno:

It was beautiful today! Spring is here and hopefully it's here to stay...of course that means quite a bit more rain, but by the end of April the weather should be nicer and by the beginning of May it should be getting quite warm! Believe it or not we get quite a few 100 degree days around here!

I know Hillsboro probably has some great doctors and what not, but just curious if you've had an opportunity to go to OHSU for treatments? They've got awesome REs there if they're an option for you! Good luck with the IUIs!

motherof5
04-05-2009, 08:16 AM
Well we went to OHSU for DS's SA but my RE is Providence. My OB recommended I contact either this RE or OHSU but I didn't want to have to go downtown every time I had an apt so I opted for this RE who is in NW Portland.

As for 100 deg days in Oregon, well having come from Phoenix, that is a nice spring day to me!!! :laugh: For me - hot is anything over 110!

DucksLikeRain
04-05-2009, 09:21 AM
Are you going to the Providence on SW Barnes? That's where I had my last baby. I don't know a whole lot about the rest of the hospital, but I know that the high risk OBs there and the NICUs doctors there are awesome! There's one nurse there, too, that touched my heart deeply-and then as my daughter was passing away I found out she was actually LDS, too. She was a real sweetheart. I love that hospital...but hope to never have to have another baby there again (for obvious reaons...if I do it's because it's born before 32 weeks!)

And yeah, I'll bet our "hot scorching days" here will feel like a nice cool breeze for you!

LuTruPeMo
04-05-2009, 07:51 PM
So did you all get to see/hear any of conference?

We went to the Sat a.m. session at the church, skipped Sat p.m. entirely, and David went to priesthood last night while I and the kids got together with some other moms & kids from our ward for a little potluck. Sounds like a good idea in theory, but the reality was that this house we were at is right on a lake,and I was paranoid about my kids falling/jumping into it so I was constantly counting heads (1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3) so I didn't get to relax at all. This also marked 3 nights in a row I was on my own with the kids - eeek.

Today we had my uncle's memorial service. It was harder for me than I'd expected. I wasn't close to him and I've carried around so much anger toward him for the past ten years. But my sister had made a DVD of photos of him and several of them choked me up, I must admit. :( I thought the pastor did a good job at the eulogy as well - talked about the parable in the NT about the workers who worked all day having the same reward as those who labored only a small portion of the day. Made me realize it's not my place to judge where a person ends up in eternity, and I need to just focus on myself and getting myself to the right place.

DucksLikeRain
04-06-2009, 01:48 AM
:hugs: Heather. I'll bet the memorial was hard for you. Most of us never have to deal with such emotionally turbulent circumstances surrounding a family member's death-and therefore salvation.

We watched all the sessions-albeit a bit delayed. We DVRd them and started them a bit late each time. Today I actually was working on designing a dress for the girls' Easter dresses during both sessions so I listened, but not whole-heartedly. I actually do WAY better reading it in the Ensign or online than listening. I have a hard time watching/listening to talks and lectures for some reason. John went to the Priesthood session and took a young man that he home teaches. Then they came back here, along with my dad, my grandpa and then also my mom and grandma and the young man's mom and we had a big pizza fest. Usually we go out to eat pizza afterwards but we decided girls+eating out pizza+past bedtime=no funn! Before us kids all left home the woman/girls were left out-dad always took my 4 brothers and however many other men/boys from the ward he could gather out for pizza buffets after GC Priesthood and Stake Priesthood meetings, too. The boys are all gone and scattered, so now us women folk get to be included :eyeroll:

motherof5
04-06-2009, 07:41 AM
Are you going to the Providence on SW Barnes? That's where I had my last baby. I don't know a whole lot about the rest of the hospital, but I know that the high risk OBs there and the NICUs doctors there are awesome! There's one nurse there, too, that touched my heart deeply-and then as my daughter was passing away I found out she was actually LDS, too. She was a real sweetheart. I love that hospital...but hope to never have to have another baby there again (for obvious reaons...if I do it's because it's born before 32 weeks!)

And yeah, I'll bet our "hot scorching days" here will feel like a nice cool breeze for you!

Yes, that is where my OB and RE both are, on the campus of St Vincents. I just randomly picked my OB from a list of providers from my insurance but I have been told by a few people at St Vincents (where I had my HSG) that she is very good. One even asked how I got in to see her because she is in very high demand, I said I don't know, I just called and they told me to come in. Her name is Dr. Reindl and so far she as been great.

By the way, I'm sorry about your loss... I remember reading your story when I first joined APA and it broke my heart. I wanted to say something back then but as you can see I've never been much of a poster and you didn't know me... anyway :hugs:

BrandiB
04-06-2009, 11:07 AM
We watched conference. I'm with you Tif though I do better reading it. We did miss the last hour of the morning session. We had to go and pay some bills and do a little bit of shopping.

Heather I'm sorry that the memorial was hard for you, *hugs*.

EvandAl
04-18-2009, 06:29 PM
Just wanted to say hello and I hope everyone is doing well!
Think of me tomorrow. I have been feeling a little worn out again and last week skipped church, but I'm telling myself I HAVE to go tomorrow. I know once the baby is born I will be taking some time off from church (since I go alone with John) and I want John to be able to enjoy it as much as possible for now!

Oh I had to add, Heather I can't believe that is Penny in your siggy!!!! She looks sooo grown up. I think she is looking more and more like Lucy :)

LuTruPeMo
04-18-2009, 06:57 PM
Hey Al! :) Your belly is looking sooooooo cute!!! I can't believe how fast your pregnancy is going. Well, to me anyway, I'm sure it doesn't feel that way to you.

I hope you're able to make it to church tomorrow. I feel out of sorts when I don't go. It's been weird lately. We were all sick one week, then the next week was something going on where we had to leave early, then it was general conference, then Easter... and now DH just got a calling to teach Sunday school and I'm STILL waiting to get a calling! It's been FOUR months! I really hope I get one soon.

DucksLikeRain
04-19-2009, 12:22 AM
Your belly is soooo cute, Al! Good luck making it to church tomorrow!

We're not going-we're out of town for the weekend and heading back tomorrow.

John's a huge ball of nerves right now. He got a phone call on Wednesday evening from the Stake Exec Sec to make an appt for he and me to meet with the Stake President. It won't happen until this Thursday since we're out of town...this can only mean bad things (in a good way I guess). He's really nervous because our current Bishop has been in for 6.5 years which is the longest this ward has ever had a Bishop in for...I keep telling him not to worry about that-I'm probably holding him down from having any high-responsibility calling like that :shame:

EvandAl
04-19-2009, 12:07 PM
Thanks Ladies! This pregnancy is going by fast for me to.

I made it to church and was glad I did. I got called in for a meeting with the Bishop, he just wanted to say hello and meet me. I've been going there for like 8 months so I figured it was about time. Plus I had a nice time chatting with the other moms in nursery.
I think next week though I am going to leave John in there and actually go to class :)

Tif keep us updated on what the meeting is for!

LuTruPeMo
04-19-2009, 06:35 PM
Oooh Tif this is so exciting... what could it be?!?! 6.5 years isn't so long for a bishop. D's dad was called as bishop a few years ago and he was told that now bishops should expect to hold their callings for at least ten years. TEN years! Usually before it tended to be about five I think. Our stake president was just released a year ago though and he'd been there for exactly ten years. I can't imagine ten years in the same calling. I'd go crazy.

I finally got a calling today - enrichment committee - story of my life! I have literally had a calling on the enrichment committee or leading it or in some fashion since 2002. I can't escape! But they also want me to do one of those small groups on gardening, which is right up my alley since I need to accumulate 40 hours of teaching organic gardening to others to get my certificate, hip hip hooray. :) I am going to teach these sisters organic and nothing BUT! They won't be happy about it... this is RoundUp country.

Al good for you going to church! I'm glad you guys made it.

BrandiB
04-20-2009, 12:06 PM
Al your belly is so cute!
Tif keep us posted on the meeting!
We made it to church yesterday, it was nice. It was the first time I took Preston to RS. I've been holding off on taking him to church because of the cold weather and everyone being sick. I just didnt want a million people touching him.

DucksLikeRain
04-24-2009, 12:02 PM
Well, it's EQ Pres which he was VERY relieved about. He was really stressing about it being anything more than that because as it is the girls are lucky to see their dad an hour each evening before bed due to his commute. One thing that came of this, though, is that he's determined to make a better effort at leaving work-this time of year when it's not his busy season-after 8 hours instead of working and working and working until he HAS to leave or else be stranded up there due to the bus schedule. We'll see how long it lasts... One hard thing is going to be meetings. I'm 1st counselor in the RS Pres and have to go to Welfare as well as any Ward Council meetings that the pres can't make it to-and she's got quite a few family situations lately that are making that frequent. The other counselor's husband is YM Pres and has to be at those meetings too, so it's not like she can step up for me...this'll be interesting!

Tomorrow my brother and SIL are taking out their endowments! I still don't have a babysitter but i've got a few calls out and am hoping I can go. Its also our Stk Conference Adult session and we've got Elder Russel M Nelson at it so most of the YW were snatched up early by other families. I hate to miss that, but I've decided to support my brother who's had a long hard road getting to the Temple-drug addictions, prison time, etc. They're getting sealed in 3 weeks which will be great, too!

DucksLikeRain
04-24-2009, 12:04 PM
Oh, and I told the Stk Pres that we'd do our best not to move after 3 months into this calling like we did up in Washington when he got put in as EQ President....and funny thing is I was only 1/2 joking. Once we get our yard put in-which I've started on the weeding and rototilling-and the fence built-I bought all the wood and hardware yesterday-then John's told me I can put my time into the living room carpet-I want to tile-and then research on selling it and moving closer to Portland. I'd hate to leave my parents down here, but it would be so nice for him to have 1/2 the commute time! And houses are selling pretty good in Salem right now, meanwhile prices have dropped considerably up towards Portland!

BrandiB
05-04-2009, 12:19 PM
Congrats to your husband Tif.

Okay so I was just informed that I missed a pretty interesting sacrament meeting yesterday. Saturday night we had Preston in the ER with hives, and DH is really sick so we did not make it. But I guess some kid he's like 19 stood up and asked if he could pray and then went on to say that the church was not true and that President Monson was not a true prophet. I guess the bishop stood up and asked him to leave and he told the bishop that he does not have authority over him. I guess then the bishop just said brothern and every brother in the ward stood up and he was escorted out. I guess he was told that he's not stable enough to serve a mission and since then everything has gone down hill. His dad does not go to church anymore because they cut him off of the church welfare. I can not believe that happened.

Last sunday we went to a baby blessing. I just love watching sweet little babies be blessed and I'm sad that I missed 2 in my own ward yesterday. I hope that everyone is doing well.

LuTruPeMo
05-04-2009, 03:43 PM
Oh my goodness Brandi that is just crazy! Wow. And to think you missed out! :)
So what was up with the hives???

BrandiB
05-04-2009, 05:13 PM
Yeah its crazy that I missed it.

Well its either dog dander, or no lectures here but my dad let Preston lick a peanut butter cookie. I didnt think anything of it because I've ate peanut butter while nursing and pregnant. He broke out in hives last week after laying on my parents bed when the dog was there as well. They have not gone away all the way but they are starting too.

LuTruPeMo
05-04-2009, 05:22 PM
Crazy! How soon after the peanut butter did the hives start? (I'm allergic to peanuts)

BrandiB
05-04-2009, 09:51 PM
Crazy! How soon after the peanut butter did the hives start? (I'm allergic to peanuts)

I'd say about an hour or so he had them around his mouth. I then bathed him and after he was dressed they were all over his body and big blochy red spots. I was really worried so we took him to the ER. The doctor said they were hives of course when he looked at them they were not as severe. Yesterday they were blochy red again and today they are just barely there but he has little bumps around his neck mostly and shoulders. We go to the ped tomorrow so I'm going to talk to him about them.

LuTruPeMo
05-05-2009, 10:57 AM
Yikes! Scary. I developed my allergy as an adult and I don't get hives, but that would really frighten me. We know Lucy isn't allergic to peanuts, but we didn't give Truman or Penny any nuts or peanuts. Then last week we were at a friend's house and they were playing upstairs, and apparently they found the kids' leftover Easter candy, and one or both of them opened a fun size Snickers and ate it. I have no idea which one of them it was, or both! Nothing happened, but they say that the allergic reaction usually occurs after the 2nd exposure.

So they want me to do a mini-enrichment class on gardening. I'm really excited about it. :) I hope we get a lot of the sisters to come for it. If you were attending such a class, what would you like to learn about?

BrandiB
05-05-2009, 01:26 PM
We went to the pedi today his hives are starting to go away thank goodness!! I really hope that he doesnt have allergies to peanuts. It scared me when they were all bright red.

Heather I would want to learn some beginner things some basics. I dont know anything about gardening.

DucksLikeRain
05-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Glad his hives are looking better, Brandi.

Heather, your class will focus on organic gardening, right? To give you teaching credit for that class you took? If that's the case, chances are you could just start from the ground up (pun intended :P ) with the basics of organic gardening, how it's different, how it's similar, etc. I could totally see that being an Enrichment group in some wards...not mine because the sisters SUCK at coming to anything (seriously-if we get 5 to an activity and 10 to a meeting we're jumping for joy :eyeroll: ). It's a group I'd totally come to once a month!

LuTruPeMo
05-06-2009, 03:05 PM
They want me to have the group at my house, but I really don't want to. Just because that means, no only creating a topic/handouts/discussion but also cleaning my house... twice a MONTH??? :D

Brandles
05-21-2009, 02:49 PM
:hi: Hi ladies, I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself. My name is Brandy, I was born and raised LDS. I have a wonderful husband and 3 awesome kiddos. All are boys, 12, 10, and one still baking, due to make his entrance sometime in mid August (if I even hold on that long). I love the church, but I've been an inactive member for most of my adulthood and it saddens me. I have no idea how to get back into the swing of things and start going to church again. I do go about once a year. I know that's horrible, but I work weekend nights and sometimes it's just way too hard to wake up and go at 9am when I just got off a 12-hour shift at 6am. I do have the missionaries over and my home teacher stops by every once in a while. My ex-husband is Catholic and he wouldn't allow my children to be baptized, so we are doing home lessons for the kids, so that's a positive thing, but I need to get my family on a routine and go back to church. I've just got to suck up my sleep and go. Plus, my husband wasn’t really raised with a religion so I am trying to work on him as well. I really want to seal my family in the Temple… for some reason that has been really important to me lately.

Anyways, I think all of you ladies are wonderful and I hope to become more active soon. :)

LuTruPeMo
05-21-2009, 04:04 PM
Welcome Brandy!!! Where in OC do you live? My DH's grandma lives in Seal Beach and we visit there about once a year. Love it. :)

Good luck getting back on track. The sleep deprivation must be so hard! Does your ward ever switch times? Maybe if they had a later meeting time, it'd be easier.

Brandles
05-21-2009, 06:04 PM
Welcome Brandy!!! Where in OC do you live? My DH's grandma lives in Seal Beach and we visit there about once a year. Love it. :)

Good luck getting back on track. The sleep deprivation must be so hard! Does your ward ever switch times? Maybe if they had a later meeting time, it'd be easier.

This is too funny, we live in Los Alamitos and I actually work in Seal Beach. My boys do the Seal Beach Jr. Lifegaurds every summer. Don't you just love walking down Main St.? It's the street that runs into the pier. When do you come for a visit next? My ward currently starts at 9am, but every year they flop back and forth between 9 and 11am.

Brandles
05-22-2009, 10:22 PM
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EvandAl
05-23-2009, 10:20 AM
Welcome Brandles :hi:

I am still working my way back from being inactive so I totally feel you!! I'm certainly not perfect, we probably only make it to church half the time. But I'm making an effort :winks:

LuTruPeMo
05-23-2009, 05:21 PM
This is too funny, we live in Los Alamitos and I actually work in Seal Beach. My boys do the Seal Beach Jr. Lifegaurds every summer. Don't you just love walking down Main St.? It's the street that runs into the pier. When do you come for a visit next? My ward currently starts at 9am, but every year they flop back and forth between 9 and 11am.

Small world! DH's grandma is in the Los Alamitos ward. Maybe all of Seal Beach is, what do I know. :) We've gone with her a few times when we've been out there to visit. She lives in Leisure World. We LOVE Leisure World & Seal Beach as a whole. It's such a laidback beach town, not all touristy. Our kids love the little playground next to the pier (and I love that it's fenced!). We went out last year, and this year DH's family came out here for his graduation, so we aren't going out again until May 2010. :(

And Al, when did you get to be 31 weeks? I think you should be about 20 weeks. That feels about right to me. :)

EvandAl
05-24-2009, 11:46 AM
So ladies I made it my ward today for the first time in a month, oopps (we did go in FL last week, Even DH went!)...and I got a calling...in Nursery HAHA. I spend every Sunday in there anyway since John freaks if I leave so I already know all the kids :) I'm happy it will help motivate me to make it each week. Of course I'm sure I'll miss a few weeks after the baby but other than that.

Oh which reminds me....how long did you wait to take your babies to church after birth? And is it totally not cool to nurse while in Sacrament, if I were super modest about it? DH is taking around 8 weeks off so I'm hoping at least for a few weeks he will come with me to help, but after that it will just be John and I and I feel bad that if the baby needs to nurse I'm going to have to drag him with me, kwim? I guess I could always pump and bring a bottle just in case. Just thought I would get opinions from the been there done that mommas :)

EvandAl
05-24-2009, 11:47 AM
Heather this pregnancy if FLYING by. I am starting to get into total nest/freak out mode and feel like I need to be ready right now haha

DucksLikeRain
05-24-2009, 12:40 PM
Welcome Brandles!

Good job Al! And yay for callings! I didn't wait at all with Keira. I had her on a Thursday, went home saturday morning and had her at church the next day. It never occurred to me to keep her home since she was healthy, it was mid-May so not a sick season or anything like that. And really I had no problem not allowing others to hold her. Scharae we waited like 2 weeks simply because I was still adjusting to having both girls and 9am church and also she was 5 weeks early and jaundiced so I was spending most of my time with her on light beds the first 10 days of her life.

As for nursing, I think most ladies leave. But if your little one will nurse well and latch well and it's not a stressful thing for you, I don't see a problem with it! I know I've seen ladies nursing in Sacrament and not thought twice about it! My girls were latch-lazy so we never made it to that point, but I totally would have if we had!

LuTruPeMo
05-24-2009, 09:45 PM
I never nursed during sacrament meeting. I think for me it's a matter of feeling strange exposing some part of my breast (even with a cover) in the chapel. I've nursed during Relief Society many, many times. Also my kids were noisy sucklers, snorting like little piggies, so it'd be totally distracting! :) IDK if there is any 'rule' on it. Maybe you'll luck out and be able to feed the baby right before and then after sacrament meeting.

With Lucy, she was born on a Saturday. So obviously we didn't go the next day, but then we did go the week after (8 days old) but we purposely arrived late and left right before sacrament meeting was over so no one could touch her. :) With Truman he was born on a Friday and I think he was 2 or 3 weeks old when we took him. Penny was born Saturday night so she also went at 8 days like Lucy. I never allowed anyone to touch or hold them - thankfully no one tried so it was a non-issue really - mostly kept them in the car seat or sling. If I didn't have David with me though (If your DH won't or can't go) I'd probably have waited about 3 or 4 weeks, just til I had found my feet with an extra kid in tow!

We came home feeling kinda grumpy after church today. :( My issue was that I couldn't find Lucy after the 3rd hour was over. Usually I leave RS about five minutes before the end time and just wait outside her classroom because I'm kind of crazy about losing her in the building. But the RS president was talking to me and I couldn't get out until a few minutes PAST the hour. I looked in her classroom but they were all gone. I looked in the gym where DH was, not in there with him. I looked down the other long hall. No Lucy. I looked in the nursery, where Truman and Penny were ready to be picked up, so they came with me. I found David and told him I couldn't find Lucy so he took Penny and went one way and I took Truman and went the other. I asked the Primary president to help me but all she said was, "There are some kids with yo-yos in the gym, maybe she's in there." (She wasn't.) My heart was seriously starting to pound at this point. Finally, just as I was about to scream for a total lockdown of the building, David emerged around the corner with her! :) Phew. Not cool.

Also we had been invited to an informal game night that 3 other couples take part in. We were excited but just learned today that no one brings their kids (all of us have kids) - we're supposed to get a SITTER? Forget that! We are lucky to get 1 date night a month out of my mom and I'm not wasting it playing Rook with a bunch of church friends. :)

DH was angry because a guy teaching Priesthood started talking about how it's false to believe that vaccines cause autism. While we would technically agree with that, David said the guy was totally arrogant about it. It made him mad, because it's this whole mentality among doctors (this guy is PA, we have 3 ER docs in our ward too) that if you are against the traditional vaccination schedule, it's because you're misinformed about autism - and that's not true at all.

Anyway.

Hope everyone has an enjoyable Memorial day! :)

DucksLikeRain
05-24-2009, 09:52 PM
How scary to lose Lucy! My baby brother was left at church more than once (we lived 30 miles away, too) because he liked to play in the coat closet thing they had. My mom would assume that grandma and grandpa had him, they would assume my mom did (because, well...she's the mom :laugh:) and the poor kid wouldn't be found missing until at least an hour after church when we'd get together for dinner (lived next to each other). Usually that's about when someone from the ward that stayed late for meetings or someone from the ward after us showed up at the house with him in their car!

Our primary has a senior primary member assigned to most of the junior ones. They walk them to the parent-hand in hand-and hand them off. I love it. I was really worried about how Keira would do and because I'm often conducting RS it's hard for me to cut out early, but she does great finding me with that girl (same one every week).

Heather, that would tick me off about the guy in Priesthood. I wouldn't have been able to keep my mouth shut-at least about the fact that it's not church doctrine so WHY IS IT BEING TALKED ABOUT BY THE TEACHER!? What conference talk were you guys doing today that he'd even talk about it!? I assume that because it's the 4th Sunday you were doing a GC talk? I'm so definitely not supportive of the current vax schedule, and contrary to what I know many believe (because of the girls' dx) I do not believe the way I do due to any kind of link to autism! I always say that's just the tip of the iceberg-something to get people thinking/looking/researching maybe-of the whole vaccine issue!

LuTruPeMo
05-25-2009, 09:46 AM
I agree Tif. The guy is generally an arrogant jerk anyway. I think part of his problem is that he's only a PA and there are so many doctors in our ward who work in the same ER he does, so maybe he gets all haughty because he feels threatened. Either that or he has a small penis. I could go either way. :)

IDK what their talk was - David said his point was that just because two things SEEM to be related, doesn't mean they truly are. He used the example of crime rates going up when ice cream sales go up. I think he could've stopped right there, but he chose to throw in the vaccine-autism thing too. I think DH just sat there and stewed about it the rest of the time! In RS our lesson was on Elder Cook's talk about how there are good people of different faiths. It was really good. No contention. :)

I feel like I may be the only mom who worries about her kids being (a) kidnapped or (b) wandering into the parking lot and getting hit by a car after church. A few years ago a little girl was kidnapped from a LDS chapel on a weeknight activity! So I'm not basing this fear on nothing. And I was less worried losing Lucy than I'd be if it were Tru or Pen obviously - Lucy is big and will scream and has smarts not to wander into traffic - the other two, not so much. :) I just get annoyed by all the kids wandering arond parentless after the block of meetings is over. But Lucy's teacher is pretty good about staying with her kids until parents are found, so that's reassuring.

EvandAl
05-26-2009, 09:10 AM
Heather I would totally freak too if I couldn't find one of my kids at church. My ward building now is out in now where, but our old ward was right off a main road and it would have been sooo easy for a kid to end up getting hit by a car.

Thanks for the replies on nursing. We sit in the back for sacrament (with most of the toddler parents) and if this baby is like John I think I should be able to get away with it. I asked DH last night about going with me while he's home but he hasn't answered yet. I'm hoping he will, it will give me more strength to get back in the habit of going.

BrandiB
05-27-2009, 09:50 AM
Welcome Brandy and thank you for the birthday wishes!

Al when it comes to nursing I actually leave the chapel and go to the mothers room. Because Preston was born right during RSV season we did not take him out until he was 2 months and that was to his blessing. Then we waited a little while longer before I took him to the whole 3 hour block. The ward we are in I have been in this ward forever and everyone wants to touch him lol. I know a family that waits until their baby is 6 months old. I cant believe how close your getting!!

Heather I would of freaked out about losing Lucy as well. Here if the parents arent there to pick up the kids then the teacher normally walks them to sacrament and waits with them until their parents get there. But we have sacrament last not first like some wards.

EvandAl
05-27-2009, 12:59 PM
Totally random but....I was so excited last night my visiting teacher called me and invited me to a playdate today and it was great! I got to meet 3 other moms from my ward and they were sooo nice! And John had a blast.

Oh and remember I told you there were a few other sisters that were pregnant, well now there 10 sisters that are pregnant!!! There is seriously something in the water haha :)

LuTruPeMo
05-28-2009, 04:00 PM
Hooray for fun playdate!

Did I tell you all that David and I are giving talks on Sunday? Our topic is the sixth article of faith. Ack! That one is so hard. But at least we have the same topic on the same day so we can avoid repeating each other. I get to go first... which can I just say is a pet peeve of mine, that the woman speaker always goes first and the male speaker is given more time?! What, a woman can't close the show!? But I digress. I think I'm going to focus on the love that our leaders have for one another. I found some really great articles that covered Neal A. Maxwell's funeral service and comments that were made about him and to his family, by President Hinckley and other apostles. I think I'll go with that. IDK.

LuTruPeMo
06-06-2009, 07:00 PM
This thread is dying again!!!

Our talks went well last week. Our home teacher told me I didn't seem nervous at all. Which is kind of funny since I was so nervous I wanted to vomit. But we made it through! And we're off the hook for a good while now. Woot!

Next Sunday we're going to the other ward that meets in our bldg, they meet at 9 and we meet at 11 normally. When we lived here several years ago we had good friends, and their oldest son just got back from his mission. The family has moved to Idaho but are coming out here & the son will be giving a talk in sacrament so we want to go for that. I told DH I love the church, but I do NOT want to stay for five hours, so we'll go to 2nd and 3rd hour in that ward and then come home at noon! :)

moosh34
06-06-2009, 08:17 PM
Heather, I'm glad you made it through your talks. We had to speak on Easter and I was REALLY nervous and thus REALLY relieved after it was over.

So these friends of yours moved while their son was on his mission, right? I think it would be hard to move home from a mission to a completely different place. It's cool that they are going back to visit for his "homecoming." AND I wouldn't stay for 5 hours either, especially with 3 kids.

DucksLikeRain
06-07-2009, 08:57 AM
Yay on good talks!

My parents moved when my brother was on his mission. They sold their house to a farmer who mostly just wanted the field behind it. John and I were pregnant with Keira and we moved in to their old house and rented it from the farmer for a VERY cheap price. That also made it so Cori had "home" to come home to. My parents came up from Salem for it and we had his homecoming party there just as if they'd never moved....and of course he then lived with us for like 3 months, along with another of my brothers...nothing like spending 3 months of your first year of marriage, and the first 3 months of your first child's life having your adult brothers live with you! :laugh:

So our ward, while not tiny, has a tiny "dependable" base...if that makes sense. If you look at all the presidencies at least 80% of them have spouses in another presidency. The Bishop's wife is the Stake YW president, the 1st Counselor's wife is the Stake Primary president, the RS President's husband is on the High Council, I'm Education Counselor, my husband is EQ President. The Enrichment counselor's husband is the YM's president, our Enrichment Committee leader (or whatever she's called) has a husband in the YM's Presidency. One of John's counselors' wife is in the YW presidency. The YW President's husband is in the YMs. The other counselor in YW's husband is the Ward Exec Secretary. The High Priest Group Leader's wife is the Compassionate Service leader (which is a big deal in our ward...it's SOOOOO needy!) The Primary President's husband is Sunday School president. One of her counselor's husband is YM Secretary. The other counselor's husband is a cop and not around much...it's ridiculous. If they dip into other members things just aren't dependable. I hate saying that, but it's the truth. I don't have teachers that I can depend on-I always have prepared a backup lesson. And thinking about other ladies in RS that I could call...they're either already taken up with stake callings and therefore not allowed to be teachers because they're not always there, or else they're all being used in Primary as teachers. Oh, and to top it of there are exactly 6 piano players and 3 organists. One of the piano players is uber OCD and...yeah. Hard to work with. Her husband is one of the counselors in the bishopric and she's also something over cub scouts and activities committee director. I'm another pianist, my RS pianist is #3, her husband is #4 and he is a teacher in YMs, a High Council member in the ward is #5 and another lady is #6. That lady is also the current organist, primary pianist, choir pianist and Ward Music Chair. High Council member and I are the other organists. Well, lady #6 is getting married and moving out of the ward. Next week is her last week. Which leaves her 4 callings to be split up between the rest of us. The only one that can play for Primary is OCD lady...good luck there, Primary. If they took my piano player that'd leave OCD lady for me and she has already said that she can't handle playing for RS....??? Because apparently playing for Primary is less stress (for me it's totally a stressful thing!). I got asked to be ward organist...and I'm hoping that doesn't include choir pianist like it has for me in other wards because John has Ward Council meetings when choir is going on...and bringing my girls is NOT a viable option! Who knows who they chose for Ward Music Chair...I guess it could be the chorister or something. Oh, and they thought they'd "make it easy" on me and have me be in charge of picking all the songs for each week. You know, on top of preparing lessons because 1/3 the time my teacher doesn't show up, on top of picking up the RS President's meetings and what not because her sister is dying and she's sort of MIA. John literally laughed when the Bishopric Counselor told him that-he said that if they wanted to make it easier on me they'd have someone else pick the songs. I can pretty much play anything which I guess is what they were worried about...me being only 27 and all they thought I didn't have much experience. Nothing like playing from the time I was 14 until 26!

Ok, that was long...I just needed to vent about our ward a little bit I guess :shame:

LuTruPeMo
06-09-2009, 12:45 PM
Vent away, Tif... it's good for the soul sometimes. :)

We used to be in a ward like that. The RS president had to be released because her husband was called to be bishop, but then she was called to be Primary president! A woman in the RS presidency is married to the 2nd counselor in the bishopric. The stake YW president is married to our ward's YM president. Stuff like that. Seriously, I'd go batty if we both had callings that required lots of time commitments away from home. D teaches Sunday School (he's supposed to team teach but the other guy is a total slacker) and I'm supposedly doing something with enrichment, though I haven't done diddly yet.

BrandiB
06-10-2009, 01:57 PM
Wow Tif thats stressful! Thank goodness that right now I do not have a calling. I did tell my bishop that he could give me a calling around March because thats when he asked if I'd be ready for one but I have not been given one yet. I'm kind of glad. I have a baby that thinks he needs to eat every 2 hours and so teaching would kind of be difficult. Kevin is in YM's now well basically since I was released from YW's.

So I noticed something interesting on sunday. Preston started fussing during RS so I had to take him out into the foyer. As I was sitting on the couch there was a dad sitting there with his son and he was playing him music on like an ipod. It was not church music and the little was just starting to walk. Hmmmm just never seen that before.

ladybug
06-12-2009, 02:41 PM
Hi ladies, I have not been on much lately...spring/early summer are the busiest times around our house. Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I leave Monday for Girls Camp! WooHoo! This will be my last year serving as Stake Camp Director so I am ready to get this week going and be done with it.:winks: Think sunshine for me, looks like it should rain Monday!:fingerscrossed:

BrandiB
06-13-2009, 06:42 PM
Hi ladies, I have not been on much lately...spring/early summer are the busiest times around our house. Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I leave Monday for Girls Camp! WooHoo! This will be my last year serving as Stake Camp Director so I am ready to get this week going and be done with it.:winks: Think sunshine for me, looks like it should rain Monday!:fingerscrossed:

Lacy you have been MIA! Glad to see you! My fingers are crossed for you that you get sunshine!! Enjoy your last year of girls camp!

EvandAl
06-14-2009, 12:03 PM
so today on the way to church I was thinking and realized how much I suck at praying lately. I NEVER do it anymore. And I was just so sad at the thought of how much time I can set aside to chat online or shop online, but I haven't been giving at least 5 minutes of my day to talk to Heavenly Father :headbang:. So I was thinking okay starting today you are going to pray!!
Then I get to church and the opening hymn was "Did you think to pray"!! You think someone agrees with me :laugh:

Totally random but had to share.

DucksLikeRain
06-15-2009, 07:28 PM
Too funny, Al! Isn't it great when things like that happen, though? Things that make us remember that it doesn't all come from us.

Good luck at camp, Lacy! I hope the weather is great for you gals! I miss camp...maybe in a few years life will be calm enough that I can volunteer to go with our ward. John and I were going to be a Ma and Pa on Trek this year if they needed us, but that we needed at least 8 weeks of notice for John to get off work. Wouldn't you know they called maybe 2 weeks ago to see if we could do it...and Trek starts next week. We had to say no, obviously, because 3 weeks is not anything close to 8...not to mention the fact that we volunteered way back in DECEMBER which was more than enough time for them to know who was going. But oh well. There'll be another Trek, I'm sure!

DucksLikeRain
06-21-2009, 11:50 AM
Wish me luck today ladies...I'm playing the organ for my new calling, then hightailing it to Primary to play piano for the first half, then off to RS...and I got a call just a few hours ago from the teacher telling me that she had Fathers' Day plans that she didn't anticipate and wouldn't be able to make it...she does this every holiday so I should have known better but I was really hoping she'd pull through...or plan ahead and get her own darned teacher like she's supposed to! So anyhow...I'm feeling really short on patience, short on inspiration and just...short today.

EvandAl
06-21-2009, 11:53 AM
Hugs Tif...I hope everything went well.
At least the time should fly by since you will be so busy.

BTW, I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new siggy pic!

EvandAl
06-21-2009, 11:59 AM
Okay Ladies so I'm already stressing over something....

I think I told you ladies about a month ago I got called to work in the Nursery. No big deal I love the kids, plus John still likes having me in there. But Usually it's just me and one other sister that show up each week and we are both Pregnant! I'm due in almost 4 weeks, she is due in 11. I've already told her that after the baby is born I will be gone for at least 2 weeks, but I'm nervous about taking an infant into the Nursery. One for all the germs and two when I'm in there I'm busy getting up and down and all around and I'm going to be carrying an ifant the whole time and needing to nurse, etc. And then next thing I know She is going to be gone to have her baby! I can't be alone in there, with all 10 kids plus my infant child....

Is this a concern I should talk to the Primary President about or the Bishopric?? There are 2 other sisters called to be in there, but the both work on the weekends. One is there half the time, but she just sits in a chair, literally! And today when she found out that I was officially working in there she said she was going to ask to be released, so that will take her out of the picture.

Sorry I am rambling. I guess today it hit me when everyone was running around and we were doing father's day stuff that I would be a mess if I were alone and I'm sure the same is true for the sister who is always there with me!

BrandiB
06-21-2009, 09:40 PM
Al it is your Primary Presidency to find a replacement for you and for her. I dont think your allowed to be left alone in Nursery. We always had 2 people if someone was going to be gone then we found subs. It was much harder to be in there and be gone with it was me and DH who taught because then we had to find 2 teachers. I could be wrong on all of this but I would talk to your primary presidency and tell them the situation, they should find a sub and if they cant find someone else then one of them should be in there. We had that a few times.


Tif I hope that your new calling went well today!

moosh34
06-21-2009, 11:33 PM
Al, I'd say talk to the Primary presidency too. Hopefully they don't react badly because they are stressed about not really being able to find other people that will actually show up, but they may. Regardless, you should not have to be in there with 10 kids and your newborn alone. They should understand that being 8-9 months pregnant and having a newborn are stressful times. I hope they will do their best to accommodate you and the other sister.

ladybug
06-24-2009, 09:34 AM
Well, I survived Girls Camp! Happy that it is over, the week went great but we had a crazy ride home. One of the ward's camp directors got in a car accident and rolled her car and all 4 of the girl's buses passed it and saw it was one of our leaders. The ambulance took her to the hospital and stitched her up, she has a big gash on top of her head from her eyebrow all the way up about 8 inches, it laid her scalp open. :ohno:They stapled and stitched her up, her parents were coming down from WA to meet her at the hospital in Baker City OR. Then as soon as we passed the accident and figured out who it was we were headed to the hospital to meet them there, well my assistant got a frantic call from her mom...her brother who is 37 was diagnosed with leukemia on Thursday (while we were at camp) and flown to LDS hospital in Utah and started chemo Friday. So we decided to let the stake YW presidency go to the hospital to stay with the ward camp director so we could get my assistant home to get her things together and go to Utah right away to be with her family. Then we pass by a bishop's truck that was broke down on the side of the freeway and stop to make sure he had someone coming for him, he did, so we kept driving to get my assistant home. I was so emotionally drained when I got home I just cried as soon as I saw my DH. What a crazy ending to the last 5 years as stake camp director.

LuTruPeMo
06-24-2009, 03:00 PM
Oh my gosh Lacy that is CRAZY! What a rollercoaster! I'm glad everyone is ok - I hope your assistant's brother does ok with the chemo. Wowsers!

Al I'd just tell the primary presidency your concerns. And if they want you working in nursery I'd stay home for at least a month. :) I don't think I've ever known anyone who had a calling in nursery AND a newborn baby though, to be honest. I don't think it's a good idea - toddlers wanting to touch a newborn and all that.

I'm going VT tomorrow morning. I hate going. :( The sister I go with is totally opposite of me (she has five boys and is a very Type A and by-the-books parent, and very rigid with her boys) plus everyone we visit, she visited before with a different companion, so when we go, she and the sister we're visiting just chat and laugh and chat some more... and then finally I'm able to give a thirty second lesson!

BrandiB
06-24-2009, 03:21 PM
Wow Lacy you had one heck of a ride home. I hope that things start to look up for all those families!

Heather I'm sorry about your VT, I hope that it went okay. Honestly I hate when my VT come. They are here forever, and I really like them but I would just rather see them at church.

So we just got a wedding announcement for one of my DH's old missionary companions, the wedding is only like 30 mins away so I told DH that today I would look at their registery to see what we could buy them. They have an expensive taste. Almost nothing on their registery was under $30 and the items that were under that were cooking utinsils and I'm sorry I'm not spending $12 on a spatula. I guess we will just give them money.

EvandAl
06-25-2009, 07:13 PM
Thanks for the feedback ladies. I think on Sunday I'm going to hunt up the primary president and talk to her. Yeah I totally stink and don't even know who she is. You'd think she would have introduced herself to me by now though :laugh:


Al I'd just tell the primary presidency your concerns. And if they want you working in nursery I'd stay home for at least a month. :) I don't think I've ever known anyone who had a calling in nursery AND a newborn baby though, to be honest. I don't think it's a good idea - toddlers wanting to touch a newborn and all that.



Yeah DH wasn't very thrilled that they called me to the Nursery, plus he was offended that they didn't "ask" him first or whatever.
He doesn't think a very pregnant woman should be in there getting down on the floor and so on with all those kids....although what does he think I do all day at home :laugh:.
I think I might even feel different about it if I had my husband at church with me each week to help me with the baby.

Heather how did the VT go?

LuTruPeMo
06-25-2009, 08:12 PM
VT went okay. We saw the two today who we didn't see last week. My companion had her five sons, and I had my three kids, plus the first house we went to two of their six kids were home, so there were ten kids! It was kind of hard for me to do my lesson, but fortunately she'd already done her VT so she knew what it was about and we talked about it. I decided at the second house to just make myself talk more about me (since no one ever asks about me :) ) and I think it helped maybe - at least I became part of the conversations!

ladybug
06-26-2009, 09:44 AM
I decided at the second house to just make myself talk more about me (since no one ever asks about me :) ) and I think it helped maybe - at least I became part of the conversations!

Good for you, sometimes you just have to jump right in.

Both my VT's moved this month so I don't have any at the moment, but that is good, they drove me crazy. You always hear about people staying too long, these ladies never stayed longer than 5 minutes, it went something like this... hi how are you? here is the lesson... anything we can do for you? No? Good, gotta go. It felt really weird, never any conversation or any real interest on their part. I felt like they just came to mark it off their to do list, not there to make a friend or get to know anyone. How can you know if someone needs anything if you don't know anything about them. I never needed anything, but if I did I wouldn't feel comfortable calling them because I barely knew them. Okay, off my soap box now.:soapbox:

katrina131h
07-02-2009, 11:18 AM
It's a really small world in the church. I found a phone number for a Bishop in Eugene where we are moving last night and Dh called. He was talking to the bishop's wife and they were just chatting and she told him how her son just left for medical school in St. Louis. So DH tells her that his uncle and brother went to medical school there and his dad did his residency there. Suddenly I hear her yell excitedly (he had told her our last name) "You're THAT family?"

I guess her husband went to medical school with DH's uncle. DH's dad was doing his residency at the same time so they all know each other. The bishop and his wife actually met DH when he was like 2, hahaha. How funny is that? Then when the Bishop and his wife moved to Colorado to do their residency a different Uncle of Dh's was their stake president. Small world.

DucksLikeRain
07-02-2009, 12:22 PM
That's crazy, Katrina! I'm always surprised to find that sort of thing. I made good friends with a young mom that moved to my home ward while I was in college. She and I were the same age but she married straight out of HS and had 2 kids by the time we were 20. We became great friends after i moved home from college. Then she left her husband and was the talk of the entire ward. Fast forward 3 years. I meet John and we're out in Port Angeles WA visiting his family. We ran into some friends of his from the singles ward out there....and there's Lauren! She was engaged to another guy that they grew up with. Come to find out she and John had known each other since they were like 10! She had turned things around after "sowing her wild oats" and was marrying this guy...who was actually my mom's cousin's son-also someone John had grown up with. And then, last month we were out there again and John went to an impromptu class reunion and came home talking about a few people...who are totally MY cousin's kids that he went to school with and played football with! Crazytown!

katrina131h
07-02-2009, 02:07 PM
That's crazy, Katrina! I'm always surprised to find that sort of thing. I made good friends with a young mom that moved to my home ward while I was in college. She and I were the same age but she married straight out of HS and had 2 kids by the time we were 20. We became great friends after i moved home from college. Then she left her husband and was the talk of the entire ward. Fast forward 3 years. I meet John and we're out in Port Angeles WA visiting his family. We ran into some friends of his from the singles ward out there....and there's Lauren! She was engaged to another guy that they grew up with. Come to find out she and John had known each other since they were like 10! She had turned things around after "sowing her wild oats" and was marrying this guy...who was actually my mom's cousin's son-also someone John had grown up with. And then, last month we were out there again and John went to an impromptu class reunion and came home talking about a few people...who are totally MY cousin's kids that he went to school with and played football with! Crazytown!

:shocker: CRAZY!

ladybug
07-09-2009, 08:38 AM
I just wanted you ladies to know that I was thinking of you today!:wub:

EvandAl
07-19-2009, 06:28 AM
Hello everyone!! We've been a little quiet lately so I thought I'd drop by as I'm sitting here printing pictures to color in Nursery today.

I'm hoping church puts me into labor HAHA

LuTruPeMo
07-19-2009, 06:14 PM
(((Al))) Irritating ticker congratulates you on your baby! Ack!

Wishing you a speedy, easy labor and a beautiful baby at the end!

EvandAl
07-20-2009, 05:47 AM
(((Al))) Irritating ticker congratulates you on your baby! Ack!

Wishing you a speedy, easy labor and a beautiful baby at the end!

Yeah this ticker has been off the whole time, I should have changed it :laugh:

I'm due Wednesday and have a dr appt that day, so I'll decide what we are doing after that. Send me so go into labor vibes!! I really don't want to be induced :bellyrubs:

ladybug
07-20-2009, 12:43 PM
Oh how exciting, another baby around here! I hope you have an easy labor and delivery...best wishes!

DucksLikeRain
07-20-2009, 01:33 PM
Good luck, Al! Can't wait to hear how it goes! I hope the baby comes before an induction :fingerscrossed:

I had a crappy day at church yesterday. I play the organ now, and usually the girls are fine. But yesterday...ugh. So just before we leave for church Jack gets a call asking us to say the prayers. He asked me if that was ok. I said-dripping with sarcas-"Oh, yeah, sure. That's fine. I'll only be up playing the organ while you wrestle the girls. It'll be no problem leaving them down in the pew by themselves." So he turns back to the phone and says "Sure, no problem." :mad: I could have killed him. Mostly because I have a phobia about saying public prayers-even for my own family. It's worse than my very bad anxiety over speaking and teaching. So anyhow, we get to church and Keira starts freaking about something as I'm playing the opening hymn. John's doing his best to deal with it without having to get up and leave because we reserve leaving for extreme behaviour-or else they manipulate it and act up so that they can go out to the hall. So the song ends and him saying the opening prayer like they'd asked is just NOT happening. So I get up and go do that-which makes my girls cry harder. After the Sacrament song I go sit down and immediately Scharae climbs into my lap and parks herself there. When she's trying to not deal with social situations she pops her thumb in her mouth, holds her blankie and needs held in the cradle position to be "rocked like a baby". And so ensues the remainder of the meeting. Oh yeah, except for the part 10 minutes before meeting is over where K decides she wants to be on my lap. I have a hard time blancing myself in situations like this-it's usually easier to find some way to appease Keira than to move Scharae...meltdown city. So I feel like K often gets the short end of the stick in these times. And yesterday I know she did. John got up and carried her out to the foyer because she was hysterical. So then I need to get up and play the last hymn, and Scharae was freaking out about me sitting her on the bench. John wasn't back in with Keira yet. I was almost in tears. I guess the one other member of the ward that can play the organ had started to get up to play for me but I didn't see him (we sit in the very front...because sitting anymore than 2 rows back makes things even worse!). So John walks in right then, grabs Scharae and sits down. I played the hymn, but bombed it bad because I was so distratcted and barely able to see the music through my tears. Then John needs to say the closing prayer, the girls are freaking, no one from the bishopric steps in to do it instead, so I high tail it down and grab the girls, he goes up and does his thing. keira goes off to Primary and John came back to take Scharae to the bathroom and talk to her about the need to go to nursery. I decided I was NOT playing postlude. Just not doing it. So I'm cleaning up our bench and the SS teacher comes up to me (SS is in the chapel). She handed me something that someone asked her to give to a member of the RS Presidency. Oh yeah, did I mention I was the only one there yesterday? yeah. When I told her I was the only one there then she asked if she could do anything to help for RS. I told her I hadn't even gotten that far and she said "well, let me know. Your girls sure seem to be giving you a hard time today. Jim was getting up to play for you, but I guess you didn't see him (her husband is the other organist). You're doing a good job, just make sure you ask for help if you need it." And I just lost it. All the tears that I'd been holding back just fell and I was a mess. She felt so bad for making me cry, but really, it wasn't her. I felt like "she's had 10 kids, 3 sets of twins, and is so well put together and I can't even handle my 2!?" I just felt like a failure. So, I get out of there, and start putting RS together. And realize my teacher isn't there. I went into all the SS classes to look-no teacher. I wasn't panicking yet because it's common for her to show up like 10 minutes before RS to teach. But on the other hand, out of the previous 6 lessons she'd only showed up for 3 of them. Oh, and I had no chorister and no one had gotten hymns ready. And we have a big pioneer day service project that the RS is helping organize (as in I am helping organize) and I have 8 sisters I need to corner to extend compassionate service assignments to before the end of church.

RS rolls around...no teacher. Seriously. Of all the days. So I'm in trying to pass out hymn books, pick songs, put them up on the little song board thing, get a table cloth out, put the little podium up, get the microphone hooked up, line up prayers...and trying to ignore the fact that I'm going to have to wing the lesson-I hadn't read all of it even. And dear sister wiggins (the SS teacher) walks in and asked me what she should do to help. I asked her if she could lead the music. I told her I would, but I've got to scramble to get a lesson together because I had no teacher. And she looked at me and said "Why don't I teach the lesson and you lead the music?" I about started crying again. Next to prayers is teaching in terms of my anxiety. I've come a long ways mostly due to this teacher that doesn't show up. But I just was not in a place to handle it all. And so she did. She taught my lesson, it went great and smooth. And we chatted about my girls afterwards. And I decided I love her. I was in the YW presidency with her before and I didn't care much for her. I think it was the dynamic between her and president, though. She was released as YW Pres and made a counselor. And the Pres was her daughter-in-law. And I think those dynamics just made me not like her much. But now I love her. To death. She seriously was exactly what I needed yesterday. What I was praying for during the Sacrament. So a crappy sunday actually turned out to be not quite so bad. But I hope I don't have another one like that in a long time. Or ever.

BrandiB
07-20-2009, 11:40 PM
Al I'm so excited for you!!! Let us know how the doctor goes and I'm sending labor vibes your way. I was induced 2 weeks past due I hope that you dont have to be induced.

OH wow Tif I totally cried for you. What a sunday and I love Sister Wiggins as well!! What a sweet lady. I can not believe how horrible your sunday was. I think that those days are seriously sunday's that make members never come back again. You are sooo strong and you are doing a great job!

LuTruPeMo
07-21-2009, 09:16 AM
Oh what a horribly crappy Sunday! I'm so sorry. :( I wonder why people are so clueless sometimes... but thank Heavenly Father for Sister Wiggins. I love her too. :)

I'm struggling with my silly enrichment committee calling. The woman who is actually in charge seems to be a total flake. Twice now, she has called me with less than 24 hours' notice, to tell me of a planning meeting. And neither time could I go - the first time, it was right during Truman's judo lesson, and then last week she did it again and it was the same night that I host gardening group (which ironically is a mini-enrichment group so I don't know why she didn't realize this). So I feel like I'm totally out of the loop on the enrichment night next Thursday. I may not even go... it's so ridiculous. I get the feeling this woman doesn't want this calling but if that's the case, she should ask to be released, not just do it in a really crappy way! I'm also feeling like there's little interest in the gardening group even though I was told by many sisters they wanted it - yet only a handful have ever come to it. And it's really important! "The Prophet Said Plant A Garden" right? :) LOL

oh... sorry... I got carried away in the church-venting I guess...

BrandiB
07-21-2009, 10:16 AM
Heather say something to her maybe? Its not fair that they let you know last minute you have a life too. Sorry that not many have come to the gardening, I think that summer has everyone really busy. I hope that things start to look up soon!

silentone
07-21-2009, 12:31 PM
Hi,im new in here and am writin all the way out here in the middle east...and by the way i am a guy and just got married to a beautiful lovely lady and we are hoping to have our children of our own.we are praying that our first born to be twins...if anyone out there can advice me on how to have twins that would be grate...thank you..and god bless us all..

EvandAl
07-25-2009, 09:12 AM
Just wanted to let you guys know that Alan Edward has arrived :)

He was born on Tuesday July 21st at 9:15 am. 9lbs 5 ozs 20.5 inches long :)
Things have been going great. We are SHOCKED at what a sleeper he is. John was never like this. He is a really relaxed baby. Feeling very blessed right now. John is loving being a big helper and loving that we have family in town hehe.

Hope you all are doing well!
Oh I posted a few pics in the CD forum if you want to see him!

EvandAl
07-25-2009, 09:13 AM
oh yeah for those that remember we were having name issues...after he was born we decided on Alan Edward after my father. So both of our boys are named after their grandfathers :)

LuTruPeMo
07-25-2009, 02:51 PM
Welcome to the world, Alan!

BrandiB
07-27-2009, 01:01 PM
Yay welcome to the world Alan!!

ladybug
07-28-2009, 11:49 AM
Congrats on the new baby, we are all so happy for you!:wub::hugs:

LuTruPeMo
07-28-2009, 11:53 AM
So should I be happy that I have visiting teachers who visit me at all, or bummed that they never all me until at least the 28th of the month?

DucksLikeRain
07-28-2009, 12:09 PM
Be happy. My "visiting teacher" is my one and only social friend...she counts all our getting togethers with the kids or our families as visiting teaching. I happen to KNOW she makes formal visits to most of the others on her route, but apparently not me :eyeroll:

LuTruPeMo
07-29-2009, 02:15 PM
That blows, Tif. Mine did come today. They are really sweet. I feel like a doofus because I didn't do my VT this month (July) and it turns out the message is on going to the temple. And one of the sisters I visit, last week she and her husband and kids went to the temple and were sealed to each other. Doh! I am going to try to make appointments for next week so we can do it first thing in August.

BrandiB
08-05-2009, 08:58 PM
My brother is getting married on saturday and I'm so excited for this wedding to be over with. They are not getting married in the temple but I hope that further down the road when they are both ready that they will be sealed. How is everyone else here?

LindseyLou
08-06-2009, 12:00 PM
I haven't checked in in a long time - hi everyone! :)

DucksLikeRain
08-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Boy we've been slow in here, huh?

I hope the wedding goes well, Brandi.

Keira is giving her first talk in Primary this Sunday! I can't believe she's so grown up! It's about Temples and how they bless families. We had to have a discussion about how we don't dance in the Temple, nor do we swim (she and Scharae pretend their bedroom is the Temple and they go swimming on the bunk bed and dance around the room :laugh:) When I talked to her about how the Temple helps families to be together forever, and that means we're linked (and showed her how to link her fingers...she calls it Blinked) then she immediately grasped the concept and said "like how Taela is our family? She lives with Jesus but is my sister still?" :wub: I have a feeling that's the direction she'll be going with her talk. I'm probably going to kick myself for this, but I'm totally leaving it up to her on what to say. We've talked about it, I'll give her a picture of the Portland Temple and a family and what not, to hold up and keep herself on track. But she doesn't want me to be up there whispering in her ear. And I think she'll do ok...maybe won't hit a full 2 minutes, but still, quality, not quantity, right?

Every Sunday she asks if it's "her turn" to go up. She loves Testimony meeting. This past week she was out of her seat like a shot the second the counselor turned the time over to the congregation and you could tell she was a girl on a mission-head down, arms folded, feet moving fast so no one got up there before her :laugh: And of course that means Scharae has to go up a little later. I love hearing their Testimonies and knowing they're from their hearts and not the things that John and I are telling them to say!

LuTruPeMo
08-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Lucy's giving a talk this month too.I'm sure Keira will do great! Lucy's given a talk once before but it's been like a year, so this should be interesting. I think as long as she can read it verbatim and have a visual aid to hold up, she'll do fine.

I've visit taught 2 of my 3 sisters already this month... feeling good about that. :) I'm starting to get irritated by everyone who asks if my kids are in school, then I say no we homeschool, then they go into this whole thing of how they'd 'love to homeschool,' but it's not for them... I never know how to take that. Do they mean they think public school is superior? Or that I'm superior as a parent? It's awkward whatever way they mean it!

Oh... interesting tidbit. We had a couple from church over for dinner last night. They have a son Penny's age and just had a baby girl 3 weeks ago. So I got some sweet-little-baby-girl holding time. :) I told David he should hold her, so he did. I said, "Doesn't this make you want another?" and he said, "eh, I don't know..." Then the couple was asking if we were planning to have more and we told them about the vasectomy, and David said how it's $10,000 to get it reversed. And I piped up and said, "There's a place in North Carolina that specializes in them and they do it in-office for $5,800." And David said, "Really? Let's do it." :shocker:

DucksLikeRain
08-06-2009, 03:53 PM
:fingerscrossed: for you and another baby, Heather!

We're going the opposite way right now. Scharae is still just so overwhelming that we've decided to not TTC in January like we planned. We're not going to do anything permanent about it, and we're going to be open to/ok with it happening if that's what happens (we're not going to do another IUD and I've gotten pregnant on the patch and the ring and I won't take BCPs). Basically we're resigned to the fact that we will likely be the people that "start over" when we're around 38/40ish. I mean...Scharae can't be wanting to be cradled in my arms like a baby when she's 15, right :shocker:

EvandAl
08-09-2009, 09:16 AM
hey girls, can I just ask for prayers? I don't have time to go into it and I'm typing with one hand, but I could use some support! I'm sure part is PP hormones...I really need to get back to church next week!!!!

LuTruPeMo
08-09-2009, 02:16 PM
(((Al)))

BrandiB
08-09-2009, 09:31 PM
Al you have our prayers and hugs!

LuTruPeMo
08-17-2009, 06:14 PM
Did you make it to church Al?

BTW today is my Mormon birthday! I'm 12! :)

EvandAl
08-17-2009, 07:52 PM
I did make it to sacrament :)

Happy mormon b-day!!

moosh34
08-17-2009, 08:24 PM
BTW today is my Mormon birthday! I'm 12! :)


:party:

DucksLikeRain
08-17-2009, 09:23 PM
Yay for Mormon birthdays! Mine was on Thursday with my confirmation birthday on Friday...20 years (I was 8 :laugh:)


So I got a new calling on Sunday that I am NOT excited about...John has asked me if we need to start looking at selling our house :shame:

I've been the Education counselor. Well, they released the RS President-she'd been in for creeping up on 6 years now. And they moved me to Enrichment Counselor. The former-Primary pres is now the Education counselor, and her 1st counselor is now the RS Pres. So they took 2 that have a total rapport and moved them over and stuck me with them. I am totally intimidated by the RS Pres. Like in a big way. She's a lawyer's wife, lives by her Franklin Dayplanner, is a size 4, perfect, 3 perfect teenagers. And very passive-aggressive. I'm accustomed to the president making an effort to working around me and the girls-it's much easier to not have to be entertaining them while I'm also trying to have a meeting, KWIM? So after being set apart yesterday she says "Ok, these two times each week work for me for meetings. Which works best for you?" I gave her one time and told her that it was because that way I could just take an hour away from work and not have the girls, the other day would work, but I would have the girls. She says "Ok, well the other day works better for me, so since they both work for you, we'll do that one." So...why didn't you say that was what worked best to begin with? Why give to options? And why on earth do you think it's going to be better to have my girls there as distractions constantly? Oh, and my house is not an option. It's near the other counselor's house, but the church is closer for HER so that's where we're doing it. But the nursery is locked, as are all the toys, so......ugh. I already vented to the old RS pres-not totally, just about how much I'm going to miss her and how intimidated I am by the new one and she told me I cannot let her intimidate me, that I need to stand up and stand my ground when I need to. So I'm going to give it a few weeks and see how it goes with the girls. If I really can't handle it, I'm going to just put my foot down and say NOPE. Oh, and both the old RS Pres and the Bishop told me that my "role" in the presidency is to "gently shepherd the presidency in the direction they need to go because you can see the bigger picture and they are both going to come in and be only seeing their smaller pictures...." Nice. I'm intimidated by the people that I'm supposed to be nudging in directions that it sounds like they're not going to want to naturally jump to....

LuTruPeMo
08-18-2009, 01:40 PM
Ugh. :( Your new calling sounds dreadful. I think anytime there's a new RS president called, it gets crazy for awhile. Maybe she'll soon wise up as to why you'd prefer to meet without your girls there. I'm an 'enrichment special assistant,' or something like that... and whenever they call me for meetings it's like 20 hours beforehand and I can never go with that short notice. So I am a lame duck assistant! It's irritating, but I know I'm doing everything I can. I keep asking them to keep me in the loop on when the next planning meeting is, but I haven't heard from anyone in several weeks.

moosh34
08-20-2009, 10:38 PM
I guess it's time for another preggo in here...I got a :bfp: yesterday! Due May 1st.:D

BrandiB
08-20-2009, 10:58 PM
I guess it's time for another preggo in here...I got a :bfp: yesterday! Due May 1st.:D

Yay!! thats awesome congrats!!

DucksLikeRain
08-20-2009, 11:14 PM
Yay for another baby on the way!!!

I forgot to mention-I met Katrina131h yesterday. She is such a doll and I hope that was are able to meet up again soon!

LuTruPeMo
08-21-2009, 10:56 AM
congrats moosh! :)

EvandAl
09-19-2009, 05:40 PM
I guess it's time for another preggo in here...I got a :bfp: yesterday! Due May 1st.:D

Okay I totakky missed this post!

Congrats!!!! :hooray:

EvandAl
09-19-2009, 05:44 PM
So how is everyone doing??

I am feeling sooo much better spiritually :)

I just read Undaunted, really liked it. My mil gave me a bunch of other church related books to read (add them to my stack haha) I swear I think reading and buying cloth diapers are my only hobbies HA. I think reading is cheaper.

LuTruPeMo
09-19-2009, 08:02 PM
Moosh how's the pregnancy going?

Al I know what you mean. Reading is the cheapest form of relaxation. I just wish I got a chance to do it somewhere other than on the toilet. :)

BTW Al I had a dream about you earlier this week. Someone was asking me, "Who's your prettiest facebook friend?" and I said, "Alison ___ ____" (your whole name, which I won't put here) "is by far!" :) Weird... too much time on Facebook!

moosh34
09-19-2009, 09:23 PM
Pregnancy is blah so far. I'm pretty nauseous all day long. Maybe that means a girl though. I just got a head cold last night and I'm pretty much miserable...though I don't notice the nausea so much when I feel like my head will explode. Sorry to be a downer. Just 4 more weeks of the first trimester to go. :P

EvandAl
09-20-2009, 06:38 AM
Heather your dream just made my Day HAHA :)

I've been staying up way too late lately to get to read, so not good when I have to get up every 2 hours to feed Alan, but it's my only me thing so oh well.

Moosh I totally feel for you, I was miserable until almost 20 weeks with my Pregnancy with Alan. It will get better though!! I loved the end.

EvandAl
09-20-2009, 06:42 AM
So it's stake conference here today so John and I will be having a little "church" at home HAHA. No way am I going to try and keep him and alan quiet for 2 hours.

Oh yeah, I asked to be released from Nursery. I just couldn't imagine taking Alan in there with me, especially with all of the Flu crap going on this year. Although I feel bad because I just found out that a sister they called to go in there no has a 5 month old that she is taking in there so I feel like a loser.
Why do they keep calling pregnant and mothers with really little ones to work in the nursery??
Okay Rant over.

On the other hand I am SOOO excited to go to RS. I've never been in this ward and I really want to get closer to the sisters. Plus I'm starting a ward play group, which I need to get to work on!

Oh yeah plus I finally ordered Nursing G's so I can continue to feel better spiritually, the difference amazes me when I have them on. I haven't had them the whole time I was preggo.

DucksLikeRain
09-27-2009, 12:28 AM
Anyone make it to the RS Broadcast tonight? I almost didn't go. I've been super stressed out about a lot of things...like very very near my breaking point. John's been pushing me to talk to Bishop about being released from my calling (Enrichment Counselor) but really that isn't even the bulk of my stress-adds to it, but not the bulk of it. My little Jimminy Cricket on my shoulder got the best of me and I went. Good thing, too! Changes in the enrichment world it seems....and of course they don't have a .pdf of Sister Beck's talk up yet!

EvandAl
09-27-2009, 05:47 AM
I wanted to go but didn't have anyone to watch John (DH works on the weekends)

BrandiB
09-27-2009, 10:10 PM
I didnt make it but I really wanted to. I didnt get home until 5 from being with my SIL our stake had a dinner at 5 and then the broadcast at 6. DH was gone and I didnt want to take Preston.

ladybug
09-28-2009, 09:26 AM
I missed it too, had date night with DH. So Tif, what are they changing for enrichment nights???

DucksLikeRain
09-28-2009, 01:47 PM
There is no such thing as "Home, Family and Personal Enrichment" anymore. I'm meeting with my RS Pres this afternoon to discuss this, but basically, after listening to her talk like 5 more times and taking notes on it and mulling it over...what I'm getting is that we are to do whatever it is that works and is needed in each of our individual wards. If the groups were working, with a big quarterly, then fine. She said the goal should be to meet monthly, at least quarterly, definitely aim to commerate the RS Birthday in the spring...but really no other guidelines beyond that. We *think* we are going to disband all our "groups" (haha...like any ladies even showed up...our ward SUCKS MONKEY TOES...seriously) except the quilt one. We're going to keep the quilt one because we KNOW we're going to still be expected to have quilts each year (this year it's been NINE. NINE! We're a tiny ward and we've probably needed to provide at least that many within our own boundaries...but the stake has expected that many for DI and whatnot on top of our personal needs :rant: DON'T get me started!). So we'll keep that one and then we are going to have a monthly meeting. Oh yeah, these are all going to be called "Relief Society Meetings" plain and simple. Call them what they are: Quilting, a conference, a seminar, whatever. But they are all considered supplemental RS Meetings. No fancy name. We are going to have one that meets a certain day/week of the month and mostly it'll be our "ALOT" group (A Little Of This, A Little Of That). This leaves us open to just have it be "bring your unfinished projects and work on them while we socialize" or have an actual focus like food storage, a speaker, etc. We're planning to have a special thing in the spring for the RS birthday, a shindig in the summer and one in the winter, and that's pretty much it.

I'm excited because I have been feeling super overwhelmed as Enrichment counselor trying to figure out how to get our ladies to particiapte in Enrichment. Bottom line is that they need to not feel obligated to go to any of the meetings now. None of them except the Sunday ones. Sister Beck flatout said that. I am feeling a large burden of my time lifted. We'll see how I feel after meeting with the RS Pres and seeing if we're on the same page this afternoon :winks:

ladybug
09-29-2009, 08:32 AM
Wow, that is great. My sister is enrichment leader now, so I am going to pass that on to her and also suggest she listen to the talk. (I know she didn't go to the RS broadcast because she was double dating with us.) Thank you so much!

ladybug
10-19-2009, 09:56 AM
Well, I was released as stake camp director in August (after 5 yrs) and have not had a calling since then. I was actually enjoying my time off. :laugh: Anyway, yesterday I got a new calling, they asked me to be the Sunday school teacher to the 16 and 17 yr olds. I don't mind teaching the girls, I just think of it as YW, but there are boys in there too. That makes me a bit nervous to try to teach them something and to try to keep their attention. Not sure how many kids there will be. Luckily we have stake conference next week, so I don't start until after that. Kind of nervous though. My oldest DD will be in there starting in January so that will be nice.

Have any of you taught Sunday school to this age group before? Help!!!

DucksLikeRain
10-19-2009, 11:16 AM
Yikes, Lacy! I turned that calling down nearly two years ago :shame: It was 2 months after Taela died and I was non-functioning in my YW counselor calling. I had talked to the Bishop about being released from it because I just was barely making it through life and needed to be able to come to church and just...be....so when the bishopric counselor talked to us about releasing me he followed with "and in addition to releasing you, we'd like to follow with extending the calling of teaching the older half of the youth Sunday School class. Will you accept this calling?" I just looked at him. :shock: For the longest time. Finally I pulled myself together (instead of :lol: at him) and said to him "First off, teaching is not my forte. In fact, it's on the bottom of the totem pole for me. It fills me with so much anxiety and dread. If you check with the YW president you'll see that I have taught only one of my lessons since being in my calling-I've literally been ill all the other times. Not kidding. So yes, I'll accept the Sunday School calling-IF you want to gurantee that at this wonderful point in my life I will never show my face at church again." :shame: I seriously said that! John was stunned. I was stunned. But I was TICKED! I mean, seriously! I had very specific reasons for being asked to be released from my YW calling...and this man KNEW that. He felt pretty sheepish. He followed up with "ok. I'm sorry. Will you be our RS pianist then?" That was one I could do.

Ok, sorry, post jack. Long story short...never taught that class. And honestly, I hope never to. I have finally gotten through some of my teaching anxiety after being RS Education counselor for a year and having 2 barely-functional teachers that were apt to not show up at the last minute. But teaching women and teaching youth are two totally different callings. I'm sure you'll do great, though! Do you think it'll be easier or harder once your DD is in there?

ladybug
10-20-2009, 09:58 AM
Tif, thanks for sharing that. I needed that. I responded with :indifferent: and more :indifferent: then he asked how do you feel about that. I said, "well, I don't have any boys, I don't like teenage boys, I don't know any teenage boys, I don't know how to teach teenage boys." HaHaHa, you get the picture. Anyway, I told him I don't mind teaching the girls, but the boys intimidate me a little and that was why I was nervous. But in the end I said, "sure, why not." with a roll of the eyes.

Why can't they put me in YW??? I have 3 girls, 2 miamaids and 1 soon to be a beehive. THAT calling would have made more sense. I want to be back in YW, I have not been in there with my DD's yet, I have always been on the stake level since they were old enough to be in YW. Oh well, I will give it a try and see how it goes. He said they wanted someone to reach them on a personal level and to be able to share my heartfelt testimony with them each class. :eyeroll: Yikes, boys don't want a heart felt blubbering testimony each class. I am going to have to bring treats, that is all there is to it. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

And I don't mind having my DD in there, that will be fine. Although she did lean over to me in sacrament meeting after they announced the callings and she said, "well, I guess it will be harder for me to skip class now." LOL. :laugh:

EvandAl
11-03-2009, 12:35 PM
Hey Ladies!

We have been queit so I wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing??

:hugs:

LuTruPeMo
11-04-2009, 06:19 PM
This thread keeps dying, and then getting resurrected! :)

How are you doing Alison? How are the boys?

We are doing okay. DH survived his trip to China. I think I started unraveling a bit towards the end - literally. Couldn't stop crying. Been having a lot of negative thoughts about myself. I'm also 50% bald now and went to the doctor last week (dermatologist) he had no idea what was wrong. He ordered some bloodwork and I haven't heard back. I'm using Rogaine for Women 2x a day. He said IF it works it will take at least 4, up to 6, months to see an effect. I'm really depressed about it. I'm not exaggerating. It started in July and for a few months wasn't a big deal, but it's been continuous and I'm starting to realize that, at this rate, I will be unable to restyle my part or comb my hair differently to hide the bald spots by Christmas.

I applied for a seasonal job at Target and got turned down. I cried about that pretty much all night last night.

Wah-wah. Debbie Downer! My visiting teachers haven't come since August. They are both pregnant with their 5th children. One is the YW president and the other is the primary president. IDK what that has to do with anything except I feel really disconnected from them.

They released the enrichment leader so I think I'm it now. We got a new counselor in the RS presidency over enrichment and I can't stand her. I don't know her well but she's just irritated me from the day I met her. I should probably try to get over this since I have to work with her. :)

DucksLikeRain
11-04-2009, 06:34 PM
:hugs: Heather. I hope the Rogaine works.

I hate church right now. I'm not even kidding. I don't mind my RS calling. But I HATE playing the organ every sunday. Hate it. Scharae is doing way better with it-so of course I don't have that leg to stand on if I decide to talk to someone about being released. But it stresses me out all week-I rarely find time to get to the church to practice so I feel like I'm winging it and that stresses me. I hate playing in front of people so there's that. Oh, and the biggest thing I'm hating about church happened on Sunday. It was Taela's birthday and we just decided to take a break from church. But John went to his Ward Council meeting like normal. Afterward the Bishop pulled him aside and told him we had to quit having the girls bare (bear?) their testimonies in Sacrament Meeting. That he feels it is a meeting for adults and worries about what any investigators would think if they were sitting in one and saw little kids getting up and speaking over the pulpit. Oh, but don't worry, they'll be starting to have one in Primary, so it's all good.

When John got home and told me I was LIVID. And I still am. I wanted to be childish and go and have the girls get up and do their testimonies just to stick it to him. And had it been any other Fast Sunday I would have. I've already tried talking to Keira about it and she has been in tears about the Bishop not "liking her" and "not wanting to listen" to her. She's devestated because she prays thanking Heavenly Father for the Bishop every night and now he doesn't want to hear her. And I don't blame her. John and I have decided that we are just not going to go to Sacrament Mtg on Fast Sundays anymore...which brings me back to the organ issue.

I'm ticked because he didn't make a "public" announcement about not wanting kids up there in Sacrament Meeting. And he didn't talk to all the families. Let's say we had gone, and we had forced the girls to stay in their seats...2 girls from 2 other familes that are are in Sunbeams and Nursery got up. I cannot imagine the meltdowns (out of confusion) we would have had to deal with because we told them little kids aren't "allowed" to do it anymore. It would have been a disaster. And I'm sure that's exactly what we'll run into at some point in time as it is. So John says he's going to let the Bishop know that A) we won't be coming on Fast Sunday anymore and he needs to get another organ player to at least cover those sundays, or B)he rescinds what he's told us or C) we WILL come and if our girls want to go up they WILL go up, meanwhile we will be working on reverence during Testimonies at home. Our girls do good, it's other kids that have some more difficulties, but they see K and S get up and then they have to get up. Anyhow, I refuse to go and feel ashamed of my girls. I just won't do it.

And basically I'm just having a rough go of it right now, as it is, and this was just one last straw.

EvandAl
11-04-2009, 07:50 PM
Girls I am SOOO sorry you guys are having a ruff time. I'm glad I decided to come here and check while I actually have 2 hands to type with.....
Heather I hope the Rogaine works for you, I haven't know any woman with the issue so I have no clue what would cause it. you'll have to keep us posted! Sorry about the Job! I can't believe that they would turn you down!!

okay so the 2 hands didn't last long...

Tif I would be beyond ticked at your bishop...we have kids that bear their testimony in the ward, infact last Sunday one of our Nursery kids did!

Things are going pretty well here. I had a rough weekend and Sundday pushed me over the edge. I cried the whole way home from church.
I feel like I suck as a mother and I can't control John. He has started throwing fits like crazy, and I have resorted to yelling way too much.
Like I said Saturday was a ruff day and then Sunday started great but changed fast. I'm still working in the nursery and John was a wild in there, as were most of the kids, plus we had way more kids than usual. But we make it through and go to sacrament. I end up having o go in and out a few times because of Alan, which means I have to drag John along...total pain.... but then we go to leave and John is runnging from me in the parking lot while I'm carrying a sleeping Alan, I am seriously about to loose it when anotherr mom helps me out and catches him. I then have to lift him kicking and screaming into the car while still holding Alan, who wakes up and begins to scream.

Sorry long story...it just pushed me over the edge. BUT it is forcing me to re-evaluate my life. I know I haven't been focusing on whats important and have been geting away with being a lazy parent....so I'm trying to work on it each day.

ladybug
11-05-2009, 02:08 PM
Hi ladies...oh my goodness, it sounds like we are all falling apart. Heather, I am so sorry about your hair, I hope the Dr will be able to find something that will help you. :hugs: And Tif, I am a big believer in saying no to things that make you get up and perform in front of everyone. I don't give talks in sacrament and I could never play the organ in front of people. I am amazed that some people have that gift, but public speaking or performance is not for me, so I am the little voice in your head that is telling you it is okay to ask to be released if it stresses you out. I totally would. :laugh: :hugs: And Alison I remember those days of juggling babies and callings, there are people in your ward that would love to help you. Look around and don't be afraid to ask for help. Even if it is a YW to help you get the boys out to the car or something, I think you would be surprised at how many people are willing to help they just don't know what they can do until you ask them.

As for us...we could use some prayers. :ohno: My middle DD is going in tomorrow for surgery to remove some tissue that the surgeon "doesn't like how it looks" and it will then be sent off for a biopsy. We have to wait until next week for the results to see what we are dealing with, but I have to tell you that this has been the worst week of my life as a mom. Our minds are racing and it is hard to not think the worst.:ohno:

I am going VTing tonight to get it taken care of early this month because of the holiday and because I want the rest of the month open in case we have more DR appts. I wanted to pass along a cute website I found and let you know I made this cute handout to go with the talk from Elder Bednar. I hope you find her website useful, I think she has some cute ideas and some others I wouldn't use, but they get your mind going. http://www.visitingteachingblog.blogspot.com/

LuTruPeMo
11-06-2009, 05:25 PM
We really are a sorry lot aren't we?! Sheesh, ladies! :) It's almost comical.

Tif - I'm so sorry your bishop is a moron. He probably had good inentions, but that wasn't the right way (and certainly not the right time) to go about addressing it. I remember several years ago, the First Presidency sent out a letter to all the wards and branches saying that young children shouldn't bear their testimonies in sacrament meeting - that they should do it in their classes, or in their homes with their families. I've still seen it happen occasionally, though after that it really became less and less common. Maybe if your bishop refers to the letter from the FP when he mentions this to parents, they might take it better.

Al I'm sorry John is being a little beast right now. :( This too shall pass... but I'm glad to hear you are looking at the bright side of things and how you can improve.

Lacy I'm so sorry about your daughter's surgery! I will be praying it'll turn out okay for her. That's got to be so, so scary. :(

My new irksome task is that they changed around the RS presidency so the woman I'm supposed to be working with is new. She's one of these way, way perky go-getter types. The conversation with her today went like this: "Heather? I just found out you are the GAL I get to work with on these workshop things! And I am soOoOoOo excited!" Ugh. No offense to her - I'm just not that into it. ;) I've had this calling since I was pregnant with LUCY for Pete's sake! I'm done with enrichment. My life has been fully enriched! But, I have to put my shoulder to the wheel and push along, right?

ladybug
11-09-2009, 09:22 AM
Update: My DD's surgery went well and they were able to get a good sample of the tissue, they sent it to the University of Kentucky Oral Pathology department and Pediatric Oncology to be tested. And so we wait. We get the results back on Monday Nov. 16th. Please pray.

LuTruPeMo
11-10-2009, 06:10 PM
I'm so glad to hear the surgery went well. I will be praying for her (and you) that the results come back good. The waiting has to be horrible. :(

BrandiB
11-20-2009, 11:38 AM
Lacy have you got the results back for your daughters surgery? I hope that all is okay!

moosh34
11-20-2009, 12:14 PM
Lacy have you got the results back for your daughters surgery? I hope that all is okay!

Yes, I hope that all is okay!

So...Super Saturday is tomorrow and my vinyl order didn't come yet. Oh, I forgot to mention that I got put into the RS Presidency in my ward a couple months ago...kinda crazy. Anyway, half my order came yesterday and my mail has already come today and nothing. It was sent Priority and I don't know what the post office's problem is! It's such a pain. I called my local office and they said there is a possibility I could come get it a half hour before the activity starts. What I joke?!? I ordered two weeks in advance and the girl who does the vinyl sent it in plenty of time. What am I going to do when everyone shows up and I don't have their stuff? :pokey:

DucksLikeRain
11-20-2009, 02:19 PM
Oh no!

See, this is why I hate being 2nd Counselor. That sort of thing stresses me out. I much preferred stressing little things like a teacher not showing up (although at the time I don't think I appreciated how easy it was to throw a lesson together, or get someone else to...) And I don't know about your ward, but we're now doing monthly bigger things. Not huge like Homemaking was. And not big like our quarterly Enrichment meetings were. But something that needs planned every.stinking.month. I can hardly make myself go downtown to pay a water bill every month. Now I have to have the follow-through to plan these things for the ladies!? :hair:

moosh34
11-21-2009, 08:58 PM
So my vinyl order came at 11:30 am (an hour and a half after the activity started) so I guess it all turned out okay. :eyeroll: I was exhausted when it was all over though.

Tif, we're still only going to do a big quarterly activity and keep our small groups that are working because they are working for us. At least, that's what we've planned for the coming year. I'm glad. My RS pres. doesn't make me work very hard.:laugh:

Still no word from Lacy?:conf:

DucksLikeRain
11-22-2009, 10:22 PM
Glad your vinyl came in. Did you just juggle around classes to put the one that needed it later?


I haven't seen Lacy on-I hope everything's ok :indifferent:


So I totally just dodged a talk-bullet! A member of the bishopric just called to see if we would speak next week-John opened his big mouth in Ward Council today and said he couldn't remember the last time we'd spoken. For the record it was only 15 months ago, not like it was 2 years ago or anything! Anyhow, luckily we're going to be up in WA next week. I am so not at a place where I'm ready to talk in church. I've just been too stressed about fortyeleven other things, mad about stuff, and just in a dark phase in general. Hopefully this dodge will buy me a few more months at least! :fingerscrossed:

moosh34
11-22-2009, 10:30 PM
Glad your vinyl came in. Did you just juggle around classes to put the one that needed it later?

Yeah, everybody had other stuff to work on until it came. Luckily, vinyl doesn't take that long to do. Most people were putting vinyl sayings on tiles so it wasn't a big deal. BTW, I've never really been to a Super Saturday that had "classes" per se. The ones that I have been to are more open-house type. There's just someone who can help you with whatever project you signed up for and you can come do it whenever during the activity running time. Anyway, that's what we did and it ended up that nobody left before I got their stuff there. Whew!

DucksLikeRain
11-22-2009, 10:52 PM
I like your style of Super Saturday. I've only been to one...and I taught a class at it. They had 2 classes going on at a time for a total of like 8 or 10 different things each only taught once. I kind of like the idea of having the "teachers" just sort of floating in there and helping people as they come around to do it, depending on what other projects they were doing.

ladybug
12-01-2009, 11:23 AM
Hi everyone! I am here and all is well for now.

The surgery went well, she was just down for the weekend and back to eating regular foods within a couple days. They took the abnormal growth out along with lots of the surrounding tissue on the palate in her mouth and sent everything to the pathologist. We waited for over a week for the results...I just have to say that it was the worst week I have ever had. The results came back that it is benign and it is something that my regular dentist and also the oral surgeon have not seen in anyone so young, they say that it is usually found in older patients who smoke, so that causes them some concern. They already cut it out last December and it grew back again this year, but they are hoping that they got it all this time and by cutting out more surrounding soft tissue it shouldn't grow back. (but it wasn't suppose to grow back from last year either:indifferent: so we will see) And so we wait, our Dr said it is something that if it keeps growing back can turn cancerous and we have to keep an eye on it and hopefully it won't affect her bones in her jaw. But for now we are good and she goes in every 2 months for the Dr to keep an eye on the area over the next year. Very grateful that is was not worse.

moosh34
12-01-2009, 12:50 PM
I'm glad to hear that everything is okay for now. You know, I think my aunt went through something similar as a teenager...but I'm not sure of the specifics.

BrandiB
12-01-2009, 09:36 PM
Lacy so glad to hear everythings ok now. I hope it doesnt grow back!

EvandAl
12-13-2009, 05:03 PM
So I had to come report.... I was released from Nursery today, to become 2nd Counsler (sp?) in the Primary :shocker:
I was shocked but I really like the New President so I am excited, plus I know it will help John transition to Sunbeam :cabbage:

LuTruPeMo
12-13-2009, 07:18 PM
Hey congratulations! I hope you love it!

moosh34
12-13-2009, 10:25 PM
I loved being in primary.

DucksLikeRain
12-13-2009, 10:32 PM
That's great, Al!


I think I'm finally going to be released from playing the organ. John had a PPI today with the Bishop before Ward Council. He asked how we were doing and John just started talking about how things have been rough the last 4 or 5 months due to me playing the organ, how much I stress about it-I hate playing in front of people-and how horrible of a spirit our home has in it every Sunday morning as we get ready to go. And then he mentioned the fact that I was pregnant and by the end of February I'd probably have to stop playing anyhow because of the probable restrictions I'll be put on. I hate that talked to him without me there-makes me feel a little inept-but I didn't know he was planning to, so I guess it is what it is, huh?

Oh yeah, by the way...I'm pregnant!!!! :hooray:

BrandiB
12-13-2009, 11:52 PM
Tif Congrats!! I'm so excited for you!

Congrats Al! I hope that you enjoy it, they just re-organized the entire YW's and it makes me glad that I'm not in there anymore. I dont currently have a calling and I'm kinda glad because then I just go and enjoy! But I would totally go back to Nursery in a heart beat!

LuTruPeMo
12-14-2009, 11:52 AM
Congratulations, sugar! :)

DucksLikeRain
12-16-2009, 08:05 AM
I think I'm miscarrying again. I have before but this one just feels more emotional-probably because I KNOW how doggone excited John was for this, when in the past it's been this huge stress to him. I had him give me a personal blessing last night and can I just say that sometimes I HATE Priesthood blessings? Like when my water broke and my dad and John gave me a blessing and I was told that I would be ok-nothing was said about the baby. When I asked John about it he started crying telling me he'd tried really hard to say those words but he just couldn't. And then last night it was "you WILL have more children to raise in your home" which could, of course, mean that I'm not miscarrying. Or it could mean the all-ambiguous "someday it'll happen". I know they're supposed to be comforting, and I am, in a way, but I just get frustrated not knowing exactly what it is the blessing MEANT :pokey:

EvandAl
12-16-2009, 08:24 AM
HUGS Tif!! Keep us posted :hugs:

moosh34
12-16-2009, 09:17 AM
:hugs: Tif

ladybug
12-16-2009, 10:43 AM
Oh no Tif, I am thinking of you and sending hugs your way.

BrandiB
12-16-2009, 11:17 PM
Oh Tiff *hugs* prayers being sent your way!

LuTruPeMo
12-17-2009, 06:47 PM
((((Tif)))) I'm so sorry. Keep us posted on your #s and all that.

And hey, how great that your husband is in tune with the spirit enough to not say what he wants to happen, but what the spirit directs him to say, right?

DucksLikeRain
12-17-2009, 06:53 PM
Yesterday my numbers had dropped from 9 down to 3, so it's done. And actually most of the bleeding seems to be done already, too.

You know, today I can look on that positive side of things. But on Tuesday when he gave me blessing...not so much. I think I got all my emotion out on Tuesday and now I'm just...here. He said yesterday "it's ok, we'll try again." First-that doesn't make it "ok". Second-he won't talk to me about what that even means. We'll try again next week? Next month? Next November like he had "planned"???

moosh34
12-17-2009, 07:48 PM
So sorry, Tif!

BrandiB
12-17-2009, 10:02 PM
So sorry Tif *hugs*

EvandAl
12-18-2009, 07:42 PM
Tif I just wanted to say I'm thinking of you....:hugs:

katrina131h
12-18-2009, 11:26 PM
I'm so sorry Tif. :hugs:

LuTruPeMo
12-21-2009, 05:14 PM
Tif how are you feeling? I'm sure you posted elsewhere about this. Most days I only hit up Christian and Weight Loss. I'm a slacker. ;)

Well we are in the midst of packing for a move (posted in Venting). It's dreadful. :(

But on top of all this, I have a very weird and funky bump on the side of my foot. I feel it on the other foot as well, but the one on my left foot is definitely bigger/swollen. It's started hurting in the past week and now, sometimes it makes me cry. :( I think I'm going to have it checked out tomorrow. I just hate to spend the $ for a copay and x-rays, but I need to know what is going on. DH says just ask someone in our ward (there are 4 podiatrists!) but I hate to do that... because I know how DH hates it when people ask him graphic design stuff. It's got to be 10x worse for doctors.

So that's what is new with us.

Everyone all set for Christmas???

berksmom
12-28-2009, 07:03 PM
I have been inactive for a long time but would love to start taking my girls hmmm... now to figure out how

moosh34
12-28-2009, 10:44 PM
I have been inactive for a long time but would love to start taking my girls hmmm... now to figure out how

Do you know where your ward meets? If not, you can go to lds.org and find your meeting house by entering your address. Try here (http://maps.lds.org/).

Let us know how it goes when you go!

What else about you? Did you find this site because you are expecting?

Welcome!

DucksLikeRain
12-29-2009, 09:22 AM
Welcome Hillary!

Do you have any family or friends around you that are active? If so, that could be an easy way to start going again. You have a couple girls, right? Are they primary aged? Nursery? I've found that having young children like that often makes my church experience completely different-it's more for them and what THEY can learn and get out of it. If I lose sight of that it's really really easy to not want to go anymore because of feeling like I'm not getting anything out of it.

berksmom
12-29-2009, 08:56 PM
Hi I am not expecting yet we are working on it and I don't have alot of friends active but I do think I have a couple neighbors. My girls a 4 and almost 1 so nursey and sunbeams maybe its been a long time but I do know where the church is just not what time it starts? I will figure it out thank you

EvandAl
12-30-2009, 05:15 PM
I have been inactive for a long time but would love to start taking my girls hmmm... now to figure out how

This was me almost 2 years ago. I had been inactive for 5 years and decided to go back. I started with just going to sacrament and then finally made it through all 3 hours.
It hasn't been easy but I've never regretted it. There are some weeks where I think I won't make it, but the boys remind me of why I want to be there. My DH is inactive (plus he works on Sunday) so it's just me and my 2 boys.

Keep us posted :hugs:

berksmom
12-30-2009, 05:41 PM
thank you cause I don't think DH will come but never know he doesn't think I will do it so now I have to.

berksmom
12-31-2009, 04:55 PM
When does church start over?

berksmom
12-31-2009, 04:55 PM
Church times I mean when do they change

DucksLikeRain
12-31-2009, 05:43 PM
January-so this Sunday. Did you figure out what time it's at? Some wards don't change, depending on the circumstances in the particular building. I think you can look up ward times online, too, but I'm not sure when they update them to show the new year times.

moosh34
01-01-2010, 11:03 PM
Oh, yeah...thanks for the reminder. I have to teach RS on Sunday and watch me show up 2 hours early. That would be fun. :eyeroll:

BrandiB
01-03-2010, 12:36 PM
Hey Ladies! I moved so I'm without internet right now but I wanted to check in and see how everyone was doing.
Tif I've been thinking about you a lot and I hope that your doing well!

Brandles
01-03-2010, 04:47 PM
Hi everyone... I just wanted to share my New Years resolution with you all. I have been an inactive member for quite some time now. I used to occasionally go to Sacrament meeting and dart for the car. So, this year I'm going to try to make it to church every Sunday possible. I'm going to continue to have the missionaries over and I want to have my older children baptized finally... They are 10 & 13. Oh, my DH is not a member, so I'd like to get him baptized as well. :) Lots of work to do!!

So, with today being the first Sunday of the year I'm proud to say that my children and I attended church for all 3 hours. I'm so happy that I made it to Relief Society today. I heard the most touching testimonies and learned so much. I think I'm even going to have my 13 year old attend Young Mens on Wednesday night... He doesn't know that yet!

Anyways, I just wanted to share that with you and I'm going to be popping in here a lot more often now!! :D

I hope you and all of your families have a safe and healthy New Year!!!!

DucksLikeRain
01-03-2010, 05:27 PM
You have definitely got your work cut out for you this year, Brandles! I pray that the Spirit is able to touch your DH and that you can accomplish your goals!

BTW, I LOVE the pictures of your DS! Is he in some sort of hammock? So cute!

DucksLikeRain
01-03-2010, 05:36 PM
I had to teach RS today. I was so not feeling it. We changed to 9am church and with playing the organ I had to get there just after 8:30. I get such a bad attitude when getting ready, getting the girls ready, getting Jack to get himself ready, all rushed because of the organ. I just get uptight and tense every week before playing. Today was no different. And then adding teaching on top of it....ugh.

I decided to teach about Testimonies and really felt like I bombed. The ladies in my ward don't answer questions, don't volunteer any comments, nothing. So I finished with 20 minutes left-and I really needed to use up 10 more minutes. Finally, at that point, they started talking. Somehow something got on the topic of evolving Testimonies and I shared how I thought I'd had a full testimony of the Atonement when I was about 23 and had come back to the church after living a very non-LDS lifestyle. I was sure that I knew personally of the sureness of the Atonement. And then when Taela died I learned that I'd only new a PART of the Atonement-the part that has to do with sins. It wasn't until Taela that I learned-and KNEW-that there was a whole different side of the Atonement. The part that had to do with sadness, tears, sorrow-having nothing to do with my sins.

So anyways, aftewards this one lady came up to talk to me. I've never talked to her before (BAD! I've been in the RS Presidency for 2 years and still have to ask about faces that should be familiar!). She moved into the ward about 3 months ago and brought with her 6 grandsons from age 6m-16. She has adopted all of them and from what I've been told, she's just amazing. She was bawling, and thanked me for my lesson. Went on to explain that her daughter had lost a son 2 years ago. He was 4yo and was murdered down in Cali. She told me "I am an old lady, and I only today learned of a sureity that the Atonement was not just for sins. Thank you so much for that."

It's moments like that when I decide I guess it really is all worth it-bad attitude and all!

moosh34
01-03-2010, 09:40 PM
BTW, I LOVE the pictures of your DS! Is he in some sort of hammock? So cute!

ITA! That smile is priceless.

Brandles
01-04-2010, 08:18 PM
Awwww, thanks ladies. It's called a baby sac, and I'm actually holding it from above. My friend is a photographer and likes to use Landon as her guinea pig!!

EvandAl
01-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Brandles you do have you work cut out for you, but you seem to already have made a great start!
What did your kids think of it??

Tif wonderful story!!

Sunday was my first time conducting in primary! I was nervous but I loved it, plus my MIL and neice were at church with me so I felt a little relief of having both boys alone.
Saturday we have a primary activity and then I have to start planning the next one!! I really need to think of some ideas!

LuTruPeMo
01-07-2010, 05:23 PM
Wonderful story, Tif! ::sniff::

I'm the secretary in YW now. I had this same calling 4 years ago when I was pregnant with Truman. It's okay. I was never in YW myself (joined the church @19yrs) so I do enjoy the lessons and values and all that, and I do admit, their activities are way more fun than the RS ones. :P I am supposed to be tackling the new personal progress changes that are coming out next week, and getting the girls jazzed to do their PP. But the only change I know about for sure is the book is now PINK! LOL that's not much to go on...

ladybug
01-08-2010, 10:51 AM
I heard there was an article in The New Era January 2010 edition about some of the changes, you might find the article at LDS.org. I am totally jealous of your new calling, that is where I wish I was. Have fun!

berksmom
01-09-2010, 09:34 PM
K girls I can't really remember what I used to wear to churh I know skirts or Dresses but how nice and where do I get them?

moosh34
01-09-2010, 10:06 PM
This is probably like something I would wear in the winter. I might put a cami under the sweater. Not too fancy. I'm even less fancy in the summer. Usually a knee length floral skirt and a knit shirt.

http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/womens/skirts/PRD~513863/Apt+9+Lace+Skirt.jsp#
http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/womens/sweaters/vnecks/PRD~501178/Croft+and+Barrow+Ribbed+Sweater.jsp

berksmom
01-10-2010, 12:08 AM
Thanks!!

moosh34
01-10-2010, 11:58 AM
I hope that was helpful. I would have posted more, but my computer was acting up last night.

berksmom
01-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Girls my friends baby is really sick today my friend is FLDS and sometimes I know her family doesn't help her as much as she needs its a long story but pray for him and her if you can please!

LuTruPeMo
02-04-2010, 02:40 PM
This thread went dead again.

Love you ladies! Hope all are well. Things have been c-r-a-z-y here but we are finding the more we need to rely on the Lord, and actually DO it, the more he he lifts us up. :)

hpfan04
02-04-2010, 05:13 PM
:hi:

I don't come in here very often, but I'd like to more. It's nice to know other LDS people online (since, a little sadly, this is where I spend most of my time during the day and the majority of my adult conversation).

I'm curious what everyone's callings are. (I'm sure you've all said before, but I am too lazy to look through 34 pages to see :laugh: Forgive me?)

I just got released after 5 years as a primary teacher. 3 years were with Sunbeams, 2 with senior primary, all the 8-11 year olds (we have a very small primary). So currently I am doing nothing. Last Sunday I felt so lost not having anywhere to be or a lesson to prepare. It was kind of nice. But I'm sure it won't last long.

So what do you do?

DucksLikeRain
02-04-2010, 06:04 PM
Geez, Kyli. I can't believe you aren't going to go back through all the pages :crossed:

:P


I got released two weeks ago from being ward organist!!! And I promptly skipped church last-minute the very next week :laugh: Ok, so we were all sick, but still. We might not have gone to church but I sure felt the freedom of not having to play! I could never not show up last minute like that before! I'm hoping this change will make church more...productive?...positive? Not sure what, but something. It's been super stressful having to play while John's trying to deal with both of the girls-especially Scharae-and knowing that if I were just down there they'd be fine. Now I'm probably going to get tired of dealing with them during Sacrament and wish I was back up there :laugh:

I'm still 2nd counselor in the RS. That's going well. The disbanding of HFPE has made my calling SO much easier and less stressful! I know in some wards the opposite has happened. But for our ward, it's much better-and we've had better attendance the past 3 months than in the 3 years I've lived here!

hpfan04
02-04-2010, 06:26 PM
I totally know what you mean, Tiff. It is so nice to not have to worry about a sub and just go ot of town on a whim or whatever. But my DH got called to young men's right away (we were in primary together), and he's been pretty ticked that his dreams of skipping church randomly have been ruined. :laugh: