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Gwenn

04-12-2012, 06:05 PM

Just now reading this. Liz, I'm sorry for your whole situation. You sound like you have a good plan in place and that's the best thing to do.

Had a rough afternoon today. This is slightly funny - I was trying to explain something to a parent about the anatomy of the throat and tried drawing a diagram. Apparently my co-workers all thought it resembled another piece of anatomy more than what I was going for. Okay, I admit if I'd been on the other end I would have laughed, too - but I'm not in a good place right now and I'm not okay with being laughed at. That really put me in a bad place.

Then we had a meeting with another parent who absolutely refused to put her son in special ed services. I just don't get it - she BROUGHT him to us and requested we test him, signed permission to have special ed testing done, and after it's all over flatly refused to put her son on an IEP. I don't get it - why bring your preschooler in if you don't want the services we are offering? It's completely voluntary. It's not even like a school-age child that the school is having issues with. We don't even see him unless you bring him in. She said his private preschool teacher had some concerns and we suspect she wanted us to test him and prove the teacher wrong. But we didn't follow her plan. What a waste of work and time that could have gone to a child who really needed it.

missychrissy

04-12-2012, 06:24 PM

:hugs: Mandy. I'm sorry you had a crappy day. I suspect you're right about the mom because for the life of me I cannot think of any other reason she'd bring him in for an evaluation.

demigraf

04-12-2012, 07:03 PM

Yuck. I'm sorry, Mandy. Some people just want to believe what they want to believe. It's frustrating to see people not accept the help that's offered them, and even worse when they're refusing help for their child.

:(

demigraf

04-12-2012, 07:40 PM

Sorry to change the subj., but I wanted to share that I'm wearing a pushup bra today. Mainly because all my other ones are in the wash. And with a rather lowcut shirt on, I have felt all day like what in street slang is known as a "hoochie mama". (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_hoochie_mama )Which made me think about all the girls I see out there that dress to play up their hoochiness. No judgment on them, but I don't think I could because I need to be able to fade into the background. Being checked out and appraised by a sleazy man is one of the worst feelings in the world to me...worse than fingernails on a chalkboard. It makes me want to crawl out if my skin. My girlfriend (high school bestie) and I actually used to do this thing called "assume the face" where you tuck in your chin and make yourself look as bulldog-like as possible - maybe even make yourself look a little deranged by ugging your eyes out - if you suspect you're being ogled by an unsavory type. There a lot of unsavory types out there. I remember one time she felt like a guy was tailing her in her car, so she drove all the way to the police station, assuming the face all the while. Just can't help thinking it's no good to assume the face if you're dressed like a hoochie. That is all.

raspberry

04-12-2012, 07:59 PM

Myles, I love that you linked wiki answers with hoochie mama :laugh: I can remember giving creepy guys the stink eye heh ;) I so need a push-up bra these days. They are sad little deflated boobs. I now understand when my sil used to tease that her son "ate them all up" referring to her boobs after her son weaned at 18 months.

Mandy, that is so frustrating that the mom acted that way, the poor little boy. That must be a really hard part of your job, having to keep your mouth shut.

We had a fun day today at the pool. I got some good baby snuggles from little 5 month old niece :wub: She fell asleep on my chest.

Liz, I am so sorry about your situation with your dbf. You've gotten some good advice, I hope something works out for you and your kids. Your kids deserve more than that "guy" is offering. :hugs:

daylilies

04-12-2012, 08:07 PM

Myles, you're too funny.

Mandy, how frustrating :(

Josh went to bed okay, and then we were starting to watch a movie when we heard him crying. I went up to see him and he said, between sobs, "I was just remembering something from when we went to see Joey" (for any newcomers, I am a huge fan of New Kids on the Block, Joey being my favorite, and I took Josh to see him do a few songs at a Christmas event last year)

He said "I remember I had a balloon dog (sniff sniff sob) and it BROKE!!!"

I tried to cheer him up, reminding him of all the fun things that happened that day, but it was no use. Poor kid cried for about 45 minutes. :(

Gwenn

04-12-2012, 08:14 PM

Oh, poor Josh!

missychrissy

04-12-2012, 08:16 PM

Myles, you crack me up! Call me nuts (or a closet slut :eyebrow:) but it doesn't phase me to be checked out. Well, in most cases. There have been some really freaky, scary looking dudes that made me give them the glare.

awww poor sweet Josh and his sensitive little heart :wub: I love him.

Bridget

04-12-2012, 08:35 PM

Lol Myles! My friends and I were watching The Ricki Lake Show one day in, oh, 1995 and there were two women on there fighting. Ricki Lake stopped them and said, "Okay, Okay what the audience really once to know is....which one of you is really the hootchie mama?" We. Died. And still to this day when one of us is telling a sordid story, another will chime in and say, "Ahhh, so it's you. You are the hootchie mama."
Also, when we lived in Hawaii and you were out at the clubs there were seriously about 10 guys to every girl, what with the military ships coming in and the base being there, plus the tourists...my girlfriend and I would be out having a smoke break from waitressing and if some guys even started walking towards us we could stop them in their tracks with the double dirty look. Do you remember that snl skit with Chris Farley where him and Adam Sandler are Gap girls and they eating in the food court and Chris Farley says, "BACK OFF MY FRIES". That's what we'd imagine saying with our eyes, "BACK OFF MY SPACE" just like he said it. Ah, the good ol days. I don't think I get checked out very often anymore. Someone screamed MILF! at me out a pick up truck one day when I was walking with the kids and I gave a fist pump.

Mandy, that must be very frustrating when parents refuse services. Does it happen very often? I would hope after some time she may come around. The judgy part of me wants to think she is selfish for letting her own need to be right get in the way of her child's best interests. I'm really hoping she just needs time to absorb. That I could understand.

Liz, I hope you are feeling better.

Kate, isn't it funny the things they remember?

Dbf's mom arrives tomorrow night. She is a perfectionist and when I see my house through her eyes I feel like such a slob. I really wanted to clean out my fridge before she came. And organize my laundry room. And scrub my shower..stupid sliding glass doors are impossible to keep clean, especially since our iron filter has been broken for weeks, just got fixed today and out water was yellow the entire time it wasn't working and stained everything. *Sigh* All that stuff to do and I just want to go to bed.

Gwenn

04-12-2012, 08:56 PM

Myles, that is funny. Honestly I don't know if I'm just totally in observant or I really am never ogled. I have to say I just have not been keeping up with myself lately. I'm just worn out these days.

Bridget, it doesn't happen often that parents flat out refuse what we offer. It's not too unusual for parents just not to follow through, though. It is sad. But I hate when parents try to explain away everything they never see their child doing. It's like, look at your child! Don't you worry about that?

missychrissy

04-12-2012, 09:10 PM

Someone screamed MILF! at me out a pick up truck one day when I was walking with the kids and I gave a fist pump..
:hooray: That's awesome!!!

demigraf

04-12-2012, 10:00 PM

demigraf

04-12-2012, 10:10 PM

Bridget, have you tried using dryer sheets (eg Bounce) on your glass shower doors? They work pretty well to clean and ward off the soap scum. Just wet a little and polish with it. Rinse. Voila! Good luck with your MIL, you MILF. (Hey if you're hot and someone's mother in law, does that make you a MILILF?)

Gwenn

04-12-2012, 10:18 PM

Myles, too funny. And I remember watching that show! How funny you went to high school with her!

Question for all of you. I have been invited to my friend's daughter's "Hello Kitty" 7th birthday. What do I get her? I suppose Hello Kitty stuff goes without saying...or is that too predictable?

3andMe

04-12-2012, 11:13 PM

I will have to try the Bounce sheets on my showers doors. I got Bar Keepers Friend after reading a house keeping blog and every few weeks I use it, when I am taking a shower by myself and have more than 2 minutes in there, so it's kind of hard to maintain.

We have been having the most awesome thunder and lightning storm all night. It's been raining like crazy off and on all day and night here. When I drove to work at 5 am they were running traffic breaks on the highway and several lanes were closed off because cars and trucks were flipped over in the rain.

S. refused his nap yesterday and I did not give him melatonin last night. He fell asleep pretty easily, but woke up countless times during the night yelling "Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy!" Tonight at bedtime I asked him if he remembered calling for me so much last night. He said yes. I asked him if he could remember why he called out for me so much last night. He said, "Because it works." I waited a moment, and said again, "Why do you call for Mommy so much at night?" He said again, "Because it works." I clarified, "Because it works in what way?" and he said, "For Mommy coming." I pressed him on if he was sad or lonely or scared of the dark, and all he would say is that it worked. I'm not sure that was a real conversation, in that it signified what it seemed to signify, but he seemed like he meant what he said.

I don't think I ever get checked out, either. If I ever dress in order to be checked out, I am wanting the looks and don't get creeped out by them, and when I don't dress for it, they're usually much milder and I usually just appreciate it. I don't tend to attract much attention on first glance, though. I don't ever have to put on a face for being a female--just for being in the hood and trying to order some french fries at Crackburger or walking through the toughs by the projects near work without looking too hurried or scared or foolish. I enjoyed the hoochie mama link.

Mandy, I would ask your friend what to get her daughter, if it's at all comfortable for you and especially if you don't know the girl really well. If she loves Hello Kitty, she might have a ton of stuff already, too.

demigraf

04-13-2012, 12:29 AM

Yeah, L, wasn't that storm awesome? It was raining down chunks of hail the size of marbles in Pacifica. The house was shaking. Bodhi said, "I know I look like I'm sad, but I'm just worried." :laugh: My friend posted a video of her little girl "skating" on their back deck (helped by daddy pulling her across the hail).

Mother nature really put on a show tonight.

AmeriBrit

04-13-2012, 01:35 AM

Mandy, if your friend's daughter likes Hello Kitty, it sounds like she might be a girly girl, so I'd get something pink for her probably, like a little purse and a bracelet or something. Kids that age seem to like dressing up and carrying around little handbags and stuff.

Shelley, sorry, I forgot to answer your question about American TV shows over here. The ones that they advertise big time over here are True Blood, Treme, Blue Bloods, Game of Thrones, and all of the Law and Orders. Oh, and the comedies: The Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother, and My Name is Earl. And they've just started showing that show New Girl.

Ricky Gervais has got a new comedy drama series out called Derek. I tried watching it last night, but I wasn't finding it very funny. He plays a guy that is kind of socially slow who works at a nursing home. I felt like I was cringing more than laughing, so I turned it off.

I don't think I've ever looked like a hoochie momma. I don't have big enough boobs for them to get oogled at. They are very humble little things. LOL. I do know that face that you are talking about,though, Myles. I have a similar kind of face that I show when I feel like I am getting unwanted attention.

MashedUp

04-13-2012, 05:27 AM

I spend more time trying to hide my boobs, not flaunt them. They are a frequent topic of conversation among my friends :laugh: I don't ever get checked out that I'm aware of, but maybe I'm just oblivious.

Inca

04-13-2012, 06:26 AM

Bridget it was "LAY OFF ME, I'M STARVING..." :lol:

missychrissy

04-13-2012, 06:34 AM

OMG! You guys have to watch this. My high school classmate, Maureen F. , was a child actress in a sitcom where she was half alien and could stop time by touching the tips of her fingers together. I know. I know.

Anyway, she's now in this video circulating around the web. As you might know Kirk Cameron from that 90s show Growing Pains has been spewing a lot of hate speech against the LGBT community, all in the name of piety. Whatever. So Maureen and a few other child actors got together and made this:

http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/b6ddedd57e/ccokc-child-celebrities-opposing-kirk-cameron. (<-- ETA: NSFW)

I hope it goes viral.

I think it has because I saw the video shared already on Facebook. :P

Myles, too funny. And I remember watching that show! How funny you went to high school with her!

Question for all of you. I have been invited to my friend's daughter's "Hello Kitty" 7th birthday. What do I get her? I suppose Hello Kitty stuff goes without saying...or is that too predictable?

I think at 7 she might be disappointed to not get Hello Kitty. At that age, there's no such thing as 'too much of a good thing' :D

So yesterday I was told I needed to learn more about computers, and someone else called about a printer problem and asked me to send 'one of the guys' to come up and fix it. I'm like...huh? What am I, the secretary? I can fix the **** thing!

Bridget

04-13-2012, 06:35 AM

Hahaha! Liz, you are correct!

Inca

04-13-2012, 06:35 AM

And to touch on a couple more points...

I love Hello Kitty but in no way am I a girly girl. So I'd probably try (just because it's me) to think outside the box and NOT go totally girly girly. Maybe just some art supplies of some sort. A fuzzy poster or something different.

As for dressing "hootchie" I cannot. I just do not feel comfortable. I even have troubles wearing my tube top dress in the house if I know someone is coming over. Like last summer, pregnant, tube dress and I barely wore it though I loved it. If I knew one of the daycare dads was picking up/dropping off, I'd try to put something on over the top. I am so weird like that. I like to be covered as much as possible. I feel nekkid with anything hangin out.

And :lol: @ Remy right now. He sees the :lol: comment from above and he thinks it's dancing, so he's trying to imitate it. Slapping his hand on the ground and jumping up and down. :lol:

Smplyme89

04-13-2012, 06:36 AM

Not at all weird. If you produce less milk, then you release less oxytocin and prolactin, which contribute to that feeling of bonding and overall well-being.

That might be why I bf'd for 2.5 yrs. :wub:

Good to know. I guess I'm just afraid of ending up in that roller coaster of emotions that I had become accustomed too. Prior to getting pregnant I was a big ball of emotional ups and downs. We won't be stopping for quite some time though :wub:

missychrissy

04-13-2012, 06:40 AM

And :lol: @ Remy right now. He sees the :lol: comment from above and he thinks it's dancing, so he's trying to imitate it. Slapping his hand on the ground and jumping up and down. :lol:

:wub: That's too cute!

Inca

04-13-2012, 06:42 AM

Here you are Bridget. I had to find it and watch it. I love that skit. Dbf and I watch it or reference to it every so often. http://www.hulu.com/watch/2368/saturday-night-live-gap-girls

Smplyme89

04-13-2012, 06:48 AM

So yesterday I was told I needed to learn more about computers, and someone else called about a printer problem and asked me to send 'one of the guys' to come up and fix it. I'm like...huh? What am I, the secretary? I can fix the **** thing!

WTH???? :eyebrow:

AbbeysMom

04-13-2012, 06:48 AM

Here you are Bridget. I had to find it and watch it. I love that skit. Dbf and I watch it or reference to it every so often. http://www.hulu.com/watch/2368/saturday-night-live-gap-girls

love this and remember it really well too! :laugh:

DH used to always quote bits from the "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer" skit, usually to make me laugh when he messed up somehow, like when he brought home beer instead of milk, or whatever: "I don't really understand your "Grocery Store Shopping Lists", or your system of couponing.. because, as I said before - I'm just a caveman! I fell on some ice, and later got thawed out by scientists. But there is one thing I do know - we had to buy that case of Blue Moon beer today. Thank you!"

missychrissy

04-13-2012, 06:52 AM

WTH???? :eyebrow:

Meh, people! The 1st woman is a bit snarky and we were warned about her before going to her office. I think the 2nd person just assumed I was the secretary. It's happened before.

Smplyme89

04-13-2012, 06:53 AM

I don't have the body to dress "hoochie" I'm too fat for all that mess. Wearing low cut tops doesn't phase me though. I don't so much these days since it's not appropriate for work and if Nolan sees the boobahs he think he must have them... and NOW :laugh:

I bought a couple new outfits for work and am feeling really uncomfortable in the one I am wearing today. It is very cute and professional, but it shows my curves and I am really self conscious about that.... Especially my hips, they are grossly huge :shocker:

Smplyme89

04-13-2012, 06:54 AM

Meh, people! The 1st woman is a bit snarky and we were warned about her before going to her office. I think the 2nd person just assumed I was the secretary. It's happened before.

People assume I don't know what I am talking about all the time because I am "young". I can't tell you how many times I've had people tell me that they want to talk to someone with more "experience", when the "experienced" person tells them the same thing I just did 2 minutes all is right with the world :eyebrow: I hate when people make assumptions, it's annoying :pokey:

Bridget

04-13-2012, 07:42 AM

Christine! I didn't forget about sending you some sunscreen. I haven't made it yet. Hopefully this weekend.

Smplyme89

04-13-2012, 07:52 AM

Christine! I didn't forget about sending you some sunscreen. I haven't made it yet. Hopefully this weekend.

YAY! I didn't want to bother you about it, so I haven't said anything :cabbage:

Inca

04-13-2012, 08:04 AM

OT but how in the heck do you teach a kid to blow their nose. Remy is so stubborn and won't even try. Nor will he even wipe his own nose. He runs up to me every 2-3 minutes yelling at me "boogers boogers boogers" and I say "Remy, you need to say 'Please wipe my nose'" which he does but still won't try to wipe himself or even blow. It's only 9am and I have a huge headache because of this.

Cosmosmom

04-13-2012, 08:33 AM

I'm in the camp of I don't think I get checked out....and really don't think I have ever been hit on. Oh wait, I was once in Vegas when I was reading and waiting for DH while he was gambling. But usually I think that it's a combo of things, I'm kind of shy, I've always been a plus size girl, and I think I give off a vibe. I mean I have been with DH since I was 19 and been wearing a pretty good sized (my ring is a one carat so is noticeable....got a great deal on it at an estate sale) since I was 21. And I'm pretty modest in dress.
Don't think I could ever wear a push up bra though....I probably couldn't see over them if I did that. LOL I have DDD's so my bra needs are pretty strict requirements. Need a wire, thicker padded straps, four hooks in the back. Wish they were smaller but not enough to have surgery.

Interesting enough, I get the most compliments from old people. Men and women....always about my hair. It's thick and very long with natural curl/wave to it. It's about an inch from my waist right now. I think that this is the longest I have ever gone with it.

Mandy, I like Liz's idea of some art supplies.

Myles, I want to check out the video and will try to remember when I get home tonight.

Smplyme89

04-13-2012, 08:43 AM

Of course now that we were talking about this I am all paranoid about it.... I walked out to my car for a minute and had two guys from a car oggling me in and out... I may or may not have flipped them off... jerks :pokey:

Suja

04-13-2012, 08:44 AM

I'm SO not even going to try and catch up on 15 pages of stuff I missed.

I don't have any kind of HM outfit. I am bow legged and flat butted, so short/tight skirts don't do anything but call attention to the flaws, and I'm not particularly comfortable with plunging necklines. The one guy that does hit on me on a consistent basis (makes inappropriate comments during dinner with other people right there) is creepy old client guy, and there is no way in hell I'm dressing even remotely sexy when I'm out for business dinners. I do have a few things that are in the conservative but sexy camp, but I don't fit into those darn things since my boobs got bigger after Mira. I had something horribly embarrassing happen when I tried, so there is NO WAY I'm taking any risks until the girls are under better control.

daylilies

04-13-2012, 09:12 AM

I don't think I ever get checked out...LOL
Then again there was the time I worked with a guy for a year and had no clue that he had a crush on me until he blurted it out one day. :laugh:

Cosmosmom

04-13-2012, 09:24 AM

Bridget, know you have ticks on the brain recently http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/12/11166645-why-this-years-tick-season-will-be-really-bad?lite&__utma=154396583.269063616.1334086579.1334255461.1 334260350.11&__utmb=154396583.0.10.1334261151&__utmc=154396583&__utmx=-&__utmz=154396583.1334086579.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|ut mccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none)&__utmv=154396583.|8=Earned%20By=newsvine%7Cnewsvin e=1&__utmk=118648777

Inca

04-13-2012, 09:45 AM

Ugh skeeve city!!!

And Bridget did you share your tick away recipe and I missed it?

demigraf

04-13-2012, 10:01 AM

DH used to always quote bits from the "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer" skit, usually to make me laugh when he messed up somehow, like when he brought home beer instead of milk, or whatever: "I don't really understand your "Grocery Store Shopping Lists", or your system of couponing.. because, as I said before - I'm just a caveman! I fell on some ice, and later got thawed out by scientists. But there is one thing I do know - we had to buy that case of Blue Moon beer today. Thank you!"

LOL!! That's hilarious! One of my favorite sketches (but there are SO many) is "Lyle, the Effeminate Heterosexual". It was where Dana Carvey played a married guy that nobody believed was really straight. He had a lisp and limp wrists and said things like, "Mmmm... yummy yummy beer." Like, even his mistress didn't believe he was really straight. LOL. And his signature line was always "Whaaaaat?!? That'th in-thane!!!" My old high school friends and I still say that to each other when feigning disbelief. :D

I should qualify that I don't think I'm checked out all too frequently, especially not now. I think that wherever you have a critical mass of people - and I've always lived in densely populated cities - there are always men, and a lot of them will check out practically anything that moves. On top of that, I think that whistling, loud kissing noises and smoldering looks are prevalent in some cultures I grew up around. I actually think it's sort of expected as part of their manhood, so I was exposed to it a lot. I admit that I had a "showier" period in my life, where I had just broken up w/ someone I dated for 6 yrs, lost 50 lbs, dyed my hair blonde, drove a sporty little convertible and pretty much deserved all the stares I got that made me uncomfortable. I think a lot of people who find themselves in new bodies have an awkward stage where they want to flaunt themselves but don't quite know how much is too much.

Suja, that sounds like a funny story, even if it was horrifying to you. Was it a Janet Jackson-style wardrobe malfunction? :D

Liz, I am not sure how to teach a kid to blow his nose. My mom came back from a stroller walk with him one day before he was even 2 and he all of a sudden knew how to blow. I guess I would demonstrate then ask him to try it. And when he does try to blow, make sure his mouth is covered so all the air is coming out of his nose? Maybe someone else here has other ideas.

Final question: do you guys make comments or corrections every time your kid uses a sharp tone of voice with you? Like, for example, I went in to hug B today and he was playing on his floor. So he said "NOOOO!" and kind of pushed me away. Do you say anything, like "Try saying, 'excuse me, I'd like to play alone right now' " or anything like that?

In response to him today, I just said, "Well, is it ok if I just give you a kiss and then you can keep playing? ", which he agreed to, so I did and he kept playing. But my concern is, though, he talks like that a lot. Lots of bossiness, grumpy refusals, know-it-all statements. I don't think I have the time to address every single time he takes a less-than-respectful tone with me, so sometimes I let his angry "No!!!" just slide and focus on the meat of whatever it is we're trying to get done. I do try to always remind him to say please and thank you. But little tone of voice things like that? How do you approach them overall with your kids?

Bridget

04-13-2012, 10:06 AM

Liz, I always tell kids to push the boogers out with the air inside their nose. It takes awhile but that seems to make sense to them.

Myles, I would have let that go too. Kai is not a fan of kisses and sometimes I forget and accidentally go in for one and he says, "MOMMMM! I told you fifty hundred times I DON'T LIKE KISSES!" And, well, he's right. So I actually just say I'm sorry that I forgot because he is so darn kissable. I don't think I always say things nicely so I can't expect my children to. I save the correction for worse offences.

Jennifer, I bookmarked that tick article.

Inca

04-13-2012, 10:06 AM

Yeah he won't even TRY, despite me showing him how.

And I always model the appropriate/polite response if he says something snarky or has an attitude. (With Remy and the daycare kids I do the same)

Suja

04-13-2012, 12:09 PM

Suja, that sounds like a funny story, even if it was horrifying to you. Was it a Janet Jackson-style wardrobe malfunction? :D

Yes. At work. Horrified! I avoided that guy for something like 3 years, in the hopes that it would fade from his memory.

AbbeysMom

04-13-2012, 12:56 PM

I don't get checked out or hit on, ever. I've been told multiple times (mostly in college) by guys that I was 'intimidating' or 'stuck up". Not sure about intimidating, but as far as seeming stuck up, I'm not, but I'm quiet around new people. I also have a kind of dry sense of humor in real life that could probably be off-putting. Like the other day I was with DH and someone touched my belly and said "congrats!" and I looked shocked and said "What are you talking about? Why are you touching me?!" She looked pretty embarrassed and then when I starting laughing she seemed annoyed/mad. I thought it was funny. :)

I've become better about socializing since getting married and becoming a mom, but I used to be pretty socially awkward too. I was going to make a shirt for myself in college that said "I don't need you, I have friends on the internet".

daylilies

04-13-2012, 01:19 PM

Heck, I need that shirt now! :laugh:

Smplyme89

04-13-2012, 01:42 PM

I've become better about socializing since getting married and becoming a mom, but I used to be pretty socially awkward too. I was going to make a shirt for myself in college that said "I don't need you, I have friends on the internet".

I would totally rock that shirt! :laugh:

AmeriBrit

04-13-2012, 02:27 PM

girlwonder

04-13-2012, 02:29 PM

AmeriBrit

04-13-2012, 02:37 PM

I want that shirt. I have been ogled in the past. Didn't mind it at all. Now that it doesn't ever happen any more I miss the possibility. I swear I turned 40 and the wheels came off, by body fell apart, my boobs dropped about six inches, my belly popped out, my upper arms turned into hams, and my butt went flat as a pancake.

Scared last night - went in to put some laundry away after J went to sleep. She was lying flat on her back with something in her mouth. Grabbed at it and it was a little key, like a lock key!?!?! I don't know where she got it or why she had it in her mouth, but I had terrible visions of it all night slipping down into her throat and her choking to death while we were in the next room. I hate it when it comes close enough to imagine.

Aw, don't say that, Katy. I don't want to know that about turning 40!

And dang, that is scary about J and the key. But I think about all the crazy/stupid stuff I did as a kid and I do wonder how I survived. (Hugs).

I missed all the SNL chat. I loved that show when Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Chris Farley, and David Spade were on there. 'Lay off me; I'm starving' is one of my catchphrases, too. I had a huge crush on Phil Hartman as a teenager and was absolutely devastated when his wife killed him.

Inca

04-13-2012, 02:45 PM

Acl, so Seren just killed me with cuteness. I took some 6 month photos of her just now and OMG she was hammin' it up. Mind if I post one in here???

girlwonder

04-13-2012, 02:50 PM

i will mind if you don't

Inca

04-13-2012, 02:52 PM

Does that mean yes? LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/xxh2thelizzoxx/a361a05d.jpg

AmeriBrit

04-13-2012, 02:58 PM

What a cutie!

girlwonder

04-13-2012, 03:00 PM

Oh, man! She's cute! What a great face.

Cosmosmom

04-13-2012, 03:02 PM

Yikes Katy that is scary about J!

And she's a cutie Liz!

Suja

04-13-2012, 03:11 PM

Seren IS such a ham! A cute little one. I didn't think they did that until a lot older.

Inca

04-13-2012, 04:15 PM

Thanks ladies. She's not always so photogenic, sometimes she's a real grump. But she was in the zone for those pictures! <3

Anywho, it's wine o'clock here (****it Bridget, gotta drink it til it's gone!) Anyone else enjoying some tasty beverage?

missychrissy

04-13-2012, 04:20 PM

No alcohol for me tonight. The antibiotics I'm on make me sick if I just have 1 glass. :(

Scared last night - went in to put some laundry away after J went to sleep. She was lying flat on her back with something in her mouth. Grabbed at it and it was a little key, like a lock key!?!?! I don't know where she got it or why she had it in her mouth, but I had terrible visions of it all night slipping down into her throat and her choking to death while we were in the next room. I hate it when it comes close enough to imagine.

Oh gosh Katy, that would scare the crap out of me too. I'm glad you saw it.

Does that mean yes? LOL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/xxh2thelizzoxx/a361a05d.jpg

:wub: What a cutie!!

Bridget

04-13-2012, 04:22 PM

She is adorable. And I am busting my arse (as you can tell because I am on here) to get my house clean before my mil arrives. And then yes, when she arrives I shall be sitting on the couch with freshly bathed children, a spotless house, a glass of wine (possibly not my first) and look on face that says my house and children look like this all the time.

missychrissy

04-13-2012, 04:24 PM

demigraf

04-13-2012, 04:30 PM

Oh, Seren! Come to Auntie Myles and let me cuddle you. I love her Baby Legs. :wub:

demigraf

04-13-2012, 04:34 PM

Scared last night - went in to put some laundry away after J went to sleep. She was lying flat on her back with something in her mouth. Grabbed at it and it was a little key, like a lock key!?!?! I don't know where she got it or why she had it in her mouth, but I had terrible visions of it all night slipping down into her throat and her choking to death while we were in the next room. I hate it when it comes close enough to imagine.

Yipes, mama! I'm so sorry you had that scare. Just goes to show you can't be too paranoid, no matter how many times people may tell us moms to "lighten up" and such.

Bridge... LOL! And when your MIL walks into your spotless home, you should say "Sorry for the mess, darling. I don't know WHAT this must look like!" And I'm still trying to decide if you should offer her a sherry at that point. :P

Gwenn

04-13-2012, 06:22 PM

Seren is adorable! I'm dying from the cuteness.

Bridget, I can just picture you all. On a white-upholstered couch, possibly with classical music playing in the background.

daylilies

04-13-2012, 06:36 PM

Seren is adorable!

I tried to make some peach sangria a few days ago, but it didn't come out good, and I still have almost a full pitcher left. I can't bring myself to throw it away yet. I haven't felt well enough in almost 3 weeks to drink anyway, although I tried to have some hard cider a couple nights ago and it promptly came out the other end. IDK if it had to do with being ill or the meds I was taking or what. Tonight I will attempt a diet Jack and Coke or three...LOL

Next week is school vacation not only for Josh but for the kids I work with and therefore for me too :D

Cosmosmom

04-13-2012, 07:01 PM

LOL Bridget going to be picturing that!

I'm lucky, DH cleaned the house mostly when his mom came last week. Except normally our place is pretty clean....should be with just two adults and the dogs and their toys pick up easily. My MIL arrives and the house turns into a pit. She always brings a ton of stuff with her and likes to set up camp at the kitchen counter with her laptop and purse and pills. And that is MY spot.
And than there is her dog....I just don't like him much. He's such a slob when he drinks and my floor always had puddles and wet spots from his sloppy dripping. Six days ago I slipped on his puddle on the kitchen floor and my foot still hurts.

I will probably be having some drinks tonight. Not sure if it's brandy or vodka. I have some rhubarb wine in the frig from my friends but I don't like it. I think it's one of the few wines I have met that I will not drink. Dh likes it though.

daylilies

04-13-2012, 08:24 PM

I don't like sloppy dogs-it's the one reason I thought I didn't like them. I thought they all smelled funny and drooled :laugh: I guess I just know a lot of sloppy dogs. Yuck!

Cosmosmom

04-13-2012, 09:09 PM

I don't like drool or slop either. it seems to be a lot of how the mouth is formed and if there is a lot of skin there. MIL's is a springer spaniel and has loose jowls. My girls don't. cosmo is very much like a poodle in her face and Poogie is a cross with the beagle poodle. She's a bit messier with the water but that is the beard and it's just smaller drips. I put a mat under their dishes and that mostly solved that. Cosmo has always been pretty dainty with eating and drinking....one reason she's called the Princess. LOL

If my girls smell, they need a bath. Or once in a while with cosmo at least it's an anal gland issue. But really even that outdoor smell usually dissipates pretty quickly inside.

AbbeysMom

04-13-2012, 09:36 PM

Ack! Seren is so adorable!

And Katy, you're 40?! You do *not* look 40 to me, at all (I'm thinking of the video you posted awhile back of your interview about your artwork). I figured you were my age or younger (33).

girlwonder

04-13-2012, 09:43 PM

AbbeysMom

04-13-2012, 09:54 PM

Aw shucks, Molly. I am actually two months away from turning 43. The thought makes me shudder. I am not liking getting old. The inner knowledge is great, but the exterior stuff is hard to take. Also am having a hard time with being treated as an older person - I can't explain it but it is a tangible feeling of being passed over and ignored. Do not like.

Honestly I think that might come from living in a town populated by hipsters or college students. I was always aware that the median age in Boulder was 7 years younger than the rest of the country, and while it didn't make me feel old, it made me feel annoyed with the general populace.

As far as getting older, I'm loving it. I've always said I will love being 60. I'm so much happier now than in my 20s, so that helps.

We may be going to the Renaissance Fair (Faire?) in Waxahachie this weekend. Have you ever been there?

3andMe

04-13-2012, 09:54 PM

Gwenn

04-13-2012, 09:58 PM

I know exactly what you're talking about. As well as the physical changes and the deterioration you mentioned. Do not want to scare all of you young whippersnappers, but it is very demoralizing.

I'm just around the corner, myself. I can see it beginning and I'm not happy.

girlwonder

04-13-2012, 10:01 PM

Honestly I think that might come from living in a town populated by hipsters or college students. I was always aware that the median age in Boulder was 7 years younger than the rest of the country, and while it didn't make me feel old, it made me feel annoyed with the general populace.

As far as getting older, I'm loving it. I've always said I will love being 60. I'm so much happier now than in my 20s, so that helps.

We may be going to the Renaissance Fair (Faire?) in Waxahachie this weekend. Have you ever been there?

I haven't ever been to a Ren fair- maybe next spring we will try it. And have driven through Waxahachie many times but never have stopped. Have fun!

Suja

04-13-2012, 10:36 PM

Today is our New Year. I have friends coming over for lunch, and am finally done with the bulk of the cooking and prep work. I just have a couple of things to finish up, vacuum, and then act like Bridget :laugh: Exhausted, though. I was thinking about scrubbing the floors, but cooking for something like 4 hours, plus working out, plus laundry = Friday turned into Saturday, and I'm out of time and energy.

Inca

04-14-2012, 07:06 AM

Thanks everyone :wub:

Anyone going to be in the middle of the tornadoes?? We are going to be on the very edge of them tonight, I'm thinking we might sleep in the livingroom in case we need to get to the basement quickly. I hate storms while I'm sleeping. :ohno:

Inca

04-14-2012, 07:10 AM

Oh great, and tomorrow too. :ohno: I hate weather.

Bridget

04-14-2012, 08:11 AM

Day one of mil. Deep breaths. Lots of them. Sawyer walked into the kitchen saying "mamamamama" with his hands out to me so I picked him up. She told me to put him down. Like, sharply. Um wha? "He's too heavy." I told her I am a strong woman and I can carry my children".
I just don't understand the need to tell other people what to do! I would NEVER.

Suja, good luck today.
Liz, stay safe. You are close to me right? Kind of. I should check the weather.

Bridget

04-14-2012, 08:17 AM

OH, and I am plugging my ears and saying LALALALALALALA about all the trash talk regarding your 40's.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:27 AM

And Katy, you're 40?! You do *not* look 40 to me, at all (I'm thinking of the video you posted awhile back of your interview about your artwork). I figured you were my age or younger (33).

Agreed. I thought (hoped) that possibly you were my age Katy. 36. You really look great and age is just a number (I know I know! :eyeroll: at me)

Aw shucks, Molly. I am actually two months away from turning 43. The thought makes me shudder. I am not liking getting old. The inner knowledge is great, but the exterior stuff is hard to take. Also am having a hard time with being treated as an older person - I can't explain it but it is a tangible feeling of being passed over and ignored. Do not like.

:( I know the feeling you're talking about too. I've only felt it a little, but inside I know it's the beginning and it'll happen more and more. It's not pleasant. Maybe that's why I don't get offended when one of the girls' male friends calls me a milf (behind my back-it's never happened to my face). It's a little bit of validation...as bad as that sounds. I'm sure none of Conner's friends will be saying that.

I know exactly what you're talking about. As well as the physical changes and the deterioration you mentioned. Do not want to scare all of you young whippersnappers, but it is very demoralizing.

I'm a little surprised you have felt that way L. It actually makes me feel better because sometimes I wonder to myself if I'm too vain because I do think about those things. You always seem so self confident and 'one' with yourself-flaws and all. Until Adobe figures out how to airbrush living, breathing people, I think we all could learn to accept ourselves as we are. (message to myself :pokey:)

Today is our New Year. I have friends coming over for lunch, and am finally done with the bulk of the cooking and prep work. I just have a couple of things to finish up, vacuum, and then act like Bridget :laugh: Exhausted, though. I was thinking about scrubbing the floors, but cooking for something like 4 hours, plus working out, plus laundry = Friday turned into Saturday, and I'm out of time and energy.

:laugh: Have a nice time!

Day one of mil. Deep breaths. Lots of them. Sawyer walked into the kitchen saying "mamamamama" with his hands out to me so I picked him up. She told me to put him down. Like, sharply. Um wha? "He's too heavy." I told her I am a strong woman and I can carry my children".
I just don't understand the need to tell other people what to do! I would NEVER.

:shocker: Oh goodness Bridget. Don't bite your tongue too hard, you'll hurt yourself!

Liz-stay in touch. If you lose power, let us know asap that you're ok. Well, contact your family first if you must. I'll be thinking of you.

It's kinda a big weekend for us. My brother brought a girl around. He's 34 and this is the 1st one he's liked that much. He's even 'in a relationship' on Facebook. Her name is Summer and she has two kids. A 7 year old and a 5 month old. I don't know what happened with their dad, but she seems very sweet.

Inca

04-14-2012, 08:29 AM

I'm sure I'll lose internet. Our service sucks here.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:32 AM

OH, and I am plugging my ears and saying LALALALALALALA about all the trash talk regarding your 40's.

We have nothing to worry about...secular mamas are hot in their 40's. Look at those already there :P

I'm sure I'll lose internet. Our service sucks here.

That's what I was worried about...If we don't hear from you in a while, we're going to get anxious.

Cosmosmom

04-14-2012, 08:36 AM

Oh dear Bridget!

Liz, hopefully the storms stay south of you. Not sure exactly where you are but have a bit of a general idea.

Happy New Year Suja!

AmeriBrit

04-14-2012, 09:41 AM

I have nightmares about tornadoes a lot. I guess it stems from growing up in Arkansas. Stay safe, Liz. The only scary weather we get here is the gale force winds that knock over big trucks on the freeway and blow people's roofs off and stuff like that.

We're going through a spell of cold grey weather. I can't wait to go on our cruise to get some sunshine and warmth.

Bridget, stay strong-your mil will be on her way home before you know it.

We had drinks at our friends' house last night. The drink of choice was pina coladas. :-)

Gwenn

04-14-2012, 10:19 AM

Yuck, Bridget. That's a crazy thing for MIL to say.

Liz, good luck with the storms. Keep in touch if you can.

Suja, have fun with the party.

It's raining here today. It's gone from 90's early this week to a projected high in the 50's today. It keeps going back and forth. I can't handle these huge temp swings. My coworker did point out that it's better than 90's from here until summer when we get 110's. Point taken.

Inca

04-14-2012, 01:23 PM

Our news isn't reporting on it much, so I'm thinking it won't be so bad here. :fingerscrossed:

My big fear is house fires. :ohno:

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 02:17 PM

We went from 80 to 20's the following week. I cried. I hate the cold.

I think everyone is afraid of a house fire. My mil had one years ago (Bobbie was a baby). Their home was almost completely destroyed except the living room where there was extensive water/smoke damage. The marshal wouldn't let them in that night, but the next day they were given the go-ahead to look and see if anything was salvageable. Someone had stolen everything that might have been worth anything. The tv and a very expensive stereo as well as some Christmas decorations that Marilyn had had since her children were really small. It was awful.

Ky'sMom

04-14-2012, 02:20 PM

And Katy, you're 40?! You do *not* look 40 to me, at all (I'm thinking of the video you posted awhile back of your interview about your artwork). I figured you were my age or younger (33).

I also thought of that video Katy and didn't think you looked 40.

I do get hit on still, even though I don't think I am looking my best right now. Guys always have hit on me and I never like being hit on, but I have big boobs and honestly I got sick of hiding them in t-shirts. I look good in V necks or square neck shirts and so I primarily wear those and in the summer I wear a lot of sun dresses and I get a look of oogles at those times. Plus I am usually really friendly and talkative to most normal people but some guys start off normal then veer towards crazy really quick. One guy who used to work out in the cardio room at my local rec center asked me to go out with him one day and I told him no, that I was married and he kept going on and one about how my husband didn't need to know, that he didn't want to steal me from my husband he just wanted to spend some time with me (in my mind meaning he wanted to F me - but not the letter F in my mind) and so I had to get kind of tudey with him and ask him how he would feel if his wife went out with some guy behind his back and his response was he didn't care since he probably would not have been "handling" everything at home. I informed him my DH handles things in that department very well but he was free to come over to spend time with me DH, and the kids cleaning the kitchen or doing yard work. He looked at me like I was nutty. I get guys like that quite often. Most African guys I meet ask me if I'm married and if I'm not would I consider marrying them, like right from the get-go. It makes me LOL for real.

I don't think I dress to attract it as plenty of times I go out in sweats and a T-shirt and look like crap with crusties in my eyes and go take the kids to the park on a Saturday morning and I'll have some guy trying to talk to me and asking me if I want to go out. I truly don't understand it. Even though I have a lot of confidence in the way I look, I know that I am not some extreme beauty. I figure it is because I am friendly but even when I'm not friendly a guy will ask me if there is something they can do to make me look happier. It is a mystery to me.

I'm not really dreading 40 but am looking forward to it. My mom just turned 50 and she looks really good and people think we're sisters. My grandma was good looking too as well as my great grandma well into her 80s. I do fear the health/body aspect of deterioration, not so much the looks as the aches, pains, fatigue, etc. that can come with getting older. I figure I'll take more naps though and am looking forward to that.

Erin

Inca

04-14-2012, 02:22 PM

That is horrible. :( I used to lay awake thinking about how I'd get out all my beanie babies. Now I lay awake thinking about how I'd get out my real babies. :lol: and :ohno:

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 02:45 PM

I worry about that sort of thing less now than I did in my 20's. I used to really freak myself out.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 03:55 PM

I feel like a schmuk, but I want to brag that I bought a size 4 bohemian dress for myself today and it fits! I'm 5'8" and have 4 kids. 4 years ago I was a size 14, so this is a big deal for me.

Inca

04-14-2012, 04:21 PM

Way to go!! I need to lose some poundage here... but when I'm nursing I just hold onto it. I'm pretty much the exact same weight right now as I was the entire time I nursed Remy. I lost 10 lbs after that, and before getting pregnant with Seren.

Speaking of skirts, I don't know if you guys have heard of enwrapture vintage, but I'm going to be doing a co-op through them. The prices are wonderful and they are awesome skirts/dresses. Not to spam you all, but if you check out their webpage and want in/more info on prices you can PM me. :)

daylilies

04-14-2012, 05:31 PM

I was looking at that "couch to 5k" regimen today and thinking of doing it. Basically you work up to being able to jog 5k. And you go at your own pace, it doesn't say "run a 5k in 30 minutes" or whatever. You start out alternating walking and jogging and work up to just jogging. I feel like I need a routine to get into for exercise. I'm too easy on myself if I don't have a plan! I need to shop soon for the cruise and I haven't lost any weight. :( It's going to be depressing!

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 05:55 PM

I think you should do it Kate. Heck, maybe I will too at the same time. It's not hard to get up to 5k, especially if you don't think about it. I mean, when I started running I was 31 or 32 years old. I didn't like running, not even as a child. I didn't particularly have a goal beyond being able to run 1 mile without stopping, but once I got there I upped it to two, then I decided 3 probably wouldn't be that much harder. And it wasn't. 5k is just around 3 miles so I know I could get there again. If you want a 'teammate' of sorts, I'm game. We can keep each other motivated and accountable.

daylilies

04-14-2012, 06:24 PM

Bridget

04-14-2012, 07:25 PM

I am not a fan of running either but am thinking of starting. I dropped the weight I wanted to but I need toning. Way to go on the size 4 Chrissy!

Todays gem is that Sawyer's cloth diapers are making him walk funny and that's not good for him. Teeheehee.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 07:30 PM

Sure. I don't want to have to check in weekly or anything but if I think of it I'll post about how I'm doing. This is the website with the chart I'll use: http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

I'm not sure if I'll start next week since I'm still kind of sick. Maybe the week after next?

Sounds good. I don't know if I'll follow it exactly because keeping track of 60/90 second increments is too much for me. The way I did it before is I jogged until I couldn't any more, then I walked till I caught my breath, and then jogged again. Each time I could jog a bit further. I think that's how I'll do it again until I'm running 3 miles without stopping for breath. What will be new for me is that I now live on a hill, so coming home will be an uphill climb. Which is good. One last 'push' before stopping. It's a challenge.

I am not a fan of running either but am thinking of starting. I dropped the weight I wanted to but I need toning. Way to go on the size 4 Chrissy!

Todays gem is that Sawyer's cloth diapers are making him walk funny and that's not good for him. Teeheehee.

Are his diapers too small?

My size 4 is like a maxi dress, not jeans. I won't be squeezing my ass into size 4 jeans any time soon. But still. It's a 4. On my clothes. It's awesome.

daylilies

04-14-2012, 07:45 PM

I keep hearing about these maxi dresses. What exactly are they?
Yeah, I don't know how I'm going to keep track of the time either. My treadmill has a thing where you can program in a routine, but since the treadmill is used, it didn't come with the code to get into the program, and when we called CS they said they'd e mail us with a code and they never did. There must be an app or something that you can program with a routine, isn't there?

raspberry

04-14-2012, 07:52 PM

I am a terrible runner, I look like a new fawn trying to run from a bear. Plus I have issues with hip pain, so no running for me.

Myles, omg I used to love that show Out of This World!! That video is pretty good, thanks for sharing.

Ashley, it's always interesting to me what US shows are popular in the UK. I asked my dh why he thought we don't have any imported shows here. He said "I don't think Americans would get the british humor" English movies do the cross-over all the time. But he's right, we never have straight across UK tv shows shown here. They will revamp the shows with recasting American actors, and give them a try over here.

Molly-ha we call my brother unfrozen caveman, because he is so untechy. He has gotten much better now with his own computer and smart phone,and plus his 20 something daughters help keep him "hip". My brother will hear us talk about some new technology and he will say "oh your new world ways frighten me, it was much easier in the cave" LOL!!

Liz, Seren is such a bundle of cuteness! I had the hardest time getting G to blow his nose. I finally got him to by asking him to breathe, funnily enough that made him blow out.

Ashley, I grew up watching SNL, I mean like I can remember watching at age 7. I miss Phil Hartman. Remember the Anal Retentive chef? It was such a part of my life, but I never watch it now. Sometimes when a funny skit makes the internet circles I will see it. But it's not part of my Saturday's anymore.

Katy, I so know what you mean about getting older. I just turned 41, and I don't feel like I am old but having to say it out, it sounds old. But not a whole lot I can do about it!

Bridget, good luck with your MIL. How long is she visiting?

Chrissy, you should feel proud!!

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:01 PM

I don't know...probably. I run to music though and don't look at my phone or anything, so that would be distracting. I find if I can get in a 'zone' I can go much further without noticing fatigue.

http://www.maxi-dresses-on-sale.com/maxi-dresses/year-of-maxi-dresses Maxi Dresses

Bridget

04-14-2012, 08:05 PM

His diapers are not too small. That was just mil comment. I'd just put him in his night diaper and it's bulkier than the regular ones since he's got to wear it all night. She said to dbf that she really doesn't think it's good for him to wear such bulky diapers. I was in the other room and just yelled, "It's fine!"

She's here 10 days. And really she's a great woman with a kind heart and all. Just one of those people that always has something to say about everything, you know? Like the opposite of "live and let live" which is generally how I feel. You do you. I'll do me. :)
But she is generous and helpful, and loves the heck out of the kids so I should not complain.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:14 PM

daylilies

04-14-2012, 08:15 PM

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:21 PM

I'm sick of my music so last time I used the treadmill (about a month ago now :() I watched a movie. Then I watched a Bon Jovi concert that was on Netflix. That was fun :) But I just need something that beeps when time is up, so I know to switch to jogging, or walking.

My mother is kind of like that, Bridget. She makes comments about everything, but she's generally a nice person. She just feels a need to make her opinion known.

Those maxi dresses are cute! I think I might have to get one of those.

I love them. I don't get to wear them often though 'cause any day I might have to crawl around on the floor. Although the way my new job is set up, I could easily sit on the floor and just reach back...the towers are on these 'slings' that are attached to the bottom of the desk and can be pulled forward for easy reach. At my last job--I was in every position known to man. My favorite was on my knees on the huge, mahogany desk with my head/arms reach down the back corner almost to the floor, essentially upside down trying to reach cords on the floor. 'Cause you know, it makes the most sense to put a 500 lb desk up against the wall where the ethernet connection is. :eyeroll:

I cannot run on a treadmill. I bought one and tried to use it for rainy/really cold weather but I hated it. I could barely force myself to do a mile on it.

raspberry

04-14-2012, 08:23 PM

My mil is that way too. Her opinion is fact. Drives me crazy. I need to learn, not to react, but usually I roll my eyes and gripe to dh.

She is constantly wanting G to go to the next "step"...like right now he should be in school, and I should be back to work.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:28 PM

God save me from being like that. :eyeroll:

It might be harder to pull off that one would thing though. At least for me. Bobbie is 19 on 4/18 and I just laid right into her yesterday because she blew her entire student loan check. She didn't save for gas, groceries, or used auto parts to repair her car from when she hit the deer. I mean-I really let her have it. I told her I was not taking care of her any more and she was on her own. We had told her and told her to budget and use that money for food and gas, and we talked extensively about what Uncle Tim could do and how much it would cost her.

Given this recent episode at home and the conversations we've had here, I can imagine it would be very difficult to bite ones tongue if you really felt like your child (even as an adult) is doing something to screw things up. I'm not saying the mil's are right...but the point is, they believe they are. So maybe we're expecting too much for them to keep their traps shut? Just playing devil's advocate.

Oh-and Bobbie wants a kitten. She can't take care of herself but she thinks she can care for a cat. She can't have it here-I don't want any more pets. She thinks she's going to live somewhere else I guess. I'm biting my tongue on this one. I think. I hope. I'm gonna try. :D

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:32 PM

Oh-and Bobbie wants a kitten. She can't take care of herself but she thinks she can care for a cat. She can't have it here-I don't want any more pets. She thinks she's going to live somewhere else I guess. I'm biting my tongue on this one. I think. I hope. I'm gonna try. :D

Nope. I failed. I couldn't resist sending her a message that said,

you better make sure wherever you're going to live allows pets. Most places don't, and a few that do charge extra for you to have them.

*sigh* I'm gonna be that mom.

Bridget

04-14-2012, 08:34 PM

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 08:37 PM

See, Chrissy, for big stuff I get it. And for your own children, I get it, especially while still supporting them.
But imagine you are going into your grown childs home where they live with their husband/wife/partner and their children. I think it would be different.
I sure hope I don't get that way as old lady. Although, I don't see how I would unless I suffered trauma to the head or something. lol

I would hope it would be different and I wouldn't be like that...but grown or not, they're still your child, kwim? Little things...no, there's no way I'd say anything because I don't now. And a lot of what was posted about here I would consider 'little things' But still...I worry that maybe future dil/sil will think I'm being too intrusive when I scream at them for driving without their child buckled in the car. Or whatever 'horrible' thing they might do that would warrant (imo) a scream.

eta: I take that back. I wouldn't care what they thought if they were doing something that drastic. But I'm sure there are going to be things that maybe I think are serious and they don't. ? Maybe?

Ky'sMom

04-14-2012, 08:59 PM

I did the couch to 5k plan last year and actually did sign up for a complete a 5k Kate, so if my big butt can do it, I know you can!! Good luck! I decided to really focus on my health this year (as I type this though I am eating a Hershey's bar LOL).

I signed up for an app on my android tablet that I usually use just as an MP3 player. The app is called "Lose It" and it tells you how many calories you can eat and how far away you are from your goal and such. I thought about doing Weight Watchers but I have never been into doing that sort of program and I really don't want to pay for something that I can do myself. The app was free and it is great and I actually did lose 2lbs last week, which is my goal to lose 2lbs per week for the next couple months.

And if you want something that you can use to do the C25K, you can get a Gym Boss (http://www.gymboss.com/). They are an interval timer and are great for the program. I used DH's last year, he did and still sometimes does HIIT boxing training and he also jogs/walks with the Gym Boss. It is pretty cheap, only around $20 and you can get an armband for running. I just got a pink one so I can make sure mine is distinguished from DH's who doesn't like it when we have electronic items that look the same.

I will also be starting up C25K again within the next month and I think I will sign up for another 5K. I also don't particularly enjoy running that much, but once I got done I would always feel good the rest of the day. Plus it is easy to do and is free, no need for a gym. So in another month, I will join you ladies on the program if you decide to do it. I want to lose about 10 lbs first before I do it, as I think I am too heavy to run right now since I gained about 20lbs a few months ago and never lost it. I am really trying to take my time with the weightloss this time as I have been reading about Basal Metabolic Rates, basically how much your body burns in calories if you were to just lay around and sleep all day, it details the amount of calories your body needs to survive on. I usually will drop calories when losing weight along with exercising like crazy. I exercised about 2-3 hours per day when I was a SAHM and I lost 65lbs in 3 months. I read that dropping below your BMR and dropping weight really quickly will make your body extra hungry and that is the reason why so many people gain the weight back, their body continually believes they are in a sort of starvation mode, even when calories are increased. There was an article I read that said that it is better to lose really slowly, which will give a body time to adjust and it doesn't increase "grelin" (sp?) the hunger hormone the way that it is increased when weight is loss quickly. I realized I was always extremely hungry when I lost that weight and even afterwards, like hungry all the freaking time, so I am only focusing on eating my BMR calories right now and doing some light cardio like walking and even walking up 20 flights of stairs in my office tower on my breaks.

I am looking forward to doing the running though. I actually like exercising, it is a big stress reliever for me and I really just enjoy it. I like to sweat and feel my body, like feel my muscles being fatigued. I am weird like that. Plus I was diagnosed with a binge eating disorder years ago and sometimes I feel out of control with food. This disorder does still pop up on me when I am not thinking consciously about it, like when I'm ill or just am contemplating a situation or some project at work, and if I let it get out of control, I can easily gain 20lbs in less than a month, which is what happened when I got sick a few months ago. Exercise is something that I can control so I have always enjoyed it, it is just so difficult now as I am strapped for time, in finding a moment to get in the workout that I want to do. I hate getting up early and I don't have time to exercise in the evening until 8pm and I will have trouble sleeping if I exercise at 8pm so I am trying to plan out a time to get it in. I am thinking I may have to just go ahead and be tired a few mornings a week to get it in.

Erin

daylilies

04-14-2012, 09:01 PM

My mother was constantly asking if I'm going to all the doctors I should be, which I understand, because they put so much work into making me as healthy as possible, she wants to make sure I'm upkeeping that as an adult. I took her words to heart finally and went to a doctor who all but laughed at me for going in for a follow up on my shunt when I haven't have any issues in over 15 years.

She comes to visit and doesn't say a word while she's here but then over the phone at a later date she'll be like, shouldn't you move the cat box? or "I don't really like the setup you have in your kitchen, shouldn't you do xyz instead?" Drives me crazy.

Chrissy-I have never tried to run outside. I mentioned before I'm terribly self-concious. Plus I feel like, what if I'm 1, 2 miles from home and I get a cramp or get demotivated, I have to go all the way back. This way I can stop whenever I want, which I guess can also be a bad thing. But I just prefer it that way.

Chrissy--at least she doesn't want a puppy. :laugh: Cats are very low maintenance in comparison. But yes it's really hard to find an apartment that will allow pets.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 09:06 PM

I am looking forward to doing the running though. I actually like exercising, it is a big stress reliever for me and I really just enjoy it. I like to sweat and feel my body, like feel my muscles being fatigued. I am weird like that. Plus I was diagnosed with a binge eating disorder years ago and sometimes I feel out of control with food. This disorder does still pop up on me when I am not thinking consciously about it, like when I'm ill or just am contemplating a situation or some project at work, and if I let it get out of control, I can easily gain 20lbs in less than a month, which is what happened when I got sick a few months ago. Exercise is something that I can control so I have always enjoyed it, it is just so difficult now as I am strapped for time, in finding a moment to get in the workout that I want to do. I hate getting up early and I don't have time to exercise in the evening until 8pm and I will have trouble sleeping if I exercise at 8pm so I am trying to plan out a time to get it in. I am thinking I may have to just go ahead and be tired a few mornings a week to get it in.

Erin

I didn't know that about you Erin. :(

I kwym about feeling your body and exercise being a stress relief. I feel the same way.

Chrissy-I have never tried to run outside. I mentioned before I'm terribly self-concious. Plus I feel like, what if I'm 1, 2 miles from home and I get a cramp or get demotivated, I have to go all the way back. This way I can stop whenever I want, which I guess can also be a bad thing. But I just prefer it that way.

Don't worry about what anyone else thinks :P I bet most people would be jealous they didn't have the ambition anyway. And if you got a cramp, you'd walk it off. That's all. Nothing is going to happen where you can't get back home.

Bridget

04-14-2012, 09:06 PM

I think I would expect a mom to say something in certain situations. My mom certainly said things to dbf sometimes. But every.little.thing.

Guess what?? Kai gained 4 lbs. Tonight I weighed him because I picked up some night time pull ups for boys weighing 35-65 lbs. Lately he's been upset about the fact that the pull ups we have for him have Elmo, Toy Story...stuff like that. He questions me on this because I am always reassuring him that it's ok he still pees at night and lots of boys his age do, older even. So my little detective wants to know WHY would there be baby stuff on all pull ups if they're meant for big kids too? Point well taken and tonight when I went to buy some they had these that were plain white. Perfect. Brought them home and he wanted to know what they said exactly so I was reading him the package and he said, "I thought I only weighed 30?"
So...he insisted on stepping on the scale to be sure these pull ups were appropriate for him! 34 lbs folks. Close enough to 35 for the pull ups to be acceptable.

I am so stoked my boy is growing and I'm feeling pretty sure it's the gluten free diet.

missychrissy

04-14-2012, 09:10 PM

You're right, every.little.thing is ridiculous and I don't think any of us are going to end up that way. I don't know why I worry about that because like I said, I don't do it now so what makes me think I'm gonna when they're officially out of the house? :laugh:

And that's really awesome about Kai!!! I'm impressed that he instantly recognized that he was only 30 and that was less than 35. I think if Conner thought about it, he'd know but it wouldn't be something he'd think of if I was reading a label to him. What a smart little boy!! :wub:

daylilies

04-14-2012, 09:15 PM

Yay Kai!
Yeah...I think I will continue using the treadmill. At least until I can jog that 5K. The website claims to get you there in two months, if you follow that chart.

Ky'sMom

04-14-2012, 09:15 PM

That is so great Bridget!!! I am excited for both of you!

And I hope your visit with your MIL will go really well. My MIL is similar to yours, very perfectionist, but I honestly don't give a crap anymore about pleasing her. I won't even clean up really well for her since she will always make comments about how I didn't clean something well as she cleans/wipes it up for me. Now I just let her clean. I figure I get a free maid for a week a couple times a year when she comes LOL.

Lately though she has been more critical of DH not helping with chores. She knows now that I work way more than he does both inside and outside the house. She also knows via our conversations that I have stepped back a lot on my chores because I just don't feel that they are a priority. As long as we don't have bugs and the house doesn't stink then I am fine. She now mostly harasses DH about helping without prompts and she apologizes to me about his behavior because she "didn't raise him like that," which is what she tells him as she cuts him a mean look. I think she is now embarrassed by his lack of assistance in our house.

Erin

3andMe

04-14-2012, 10:12 PM

I called my MIL the other day and she said something about how my DH never calls her and he gets it naturally, I guess meaning that her DH never was thoughtful about things like that. In general she's pretty sweet, though, and she means well. She never tries to tell me how to manage the children or anything other than how wonderful they are and how it's obviously because I'm a good mother. We don't spend a great deal of time with her, though, and that probably helps.

My dad is here visiting this weekend. DH and I are exchanging moments of frustration--when one of us is shaking with annoyance, the other one is a calming influence. Like, we had a set plan to meet everyone in the family at a park an hour away for an event at noon. My dad shows up at 9:30 and starts asking about going to a parade in the complete opposite direction at 11:30. The kids jumped up and down and got all excited about a parade, and I gritted my teeth and suggested that he may not want to bring up any other plans unless he knows for certain we can do it (this was the third alternate he'd proposed, even after he said he for sure wanted to do the park event). I had to call everyone and ask if they wanted to reschedule everything for 90 minutes later, and couldn't get ahold of everyone, so we kept to the original plan. That annoyed me. My DH got upset when my dad was sitting at the dining room table with all three of the kids and within 5 minutes DS took all the caps off 25 pens and spit them point-first onto the floor and baby S. mouthed 3 of the capless pens and turned his entire face and tongue bluish-purple. This is not something DS would have done if left alone by himself. He is perfectly responsible with the pens by himself. DH thinks my dad encouraged him. At the very least, he sat there and watched him and didn't say anything, as one pen after another hit the floor. And I took the baby over to the sink and tried to scrub him and his mouth and the water turned blue as it ran down the drain and I asked my dad, who was sitting less than a foot away from him if he noticed him doing that, and he just said, "No, I didn't." DH gave the kids a little lecture at dinner about how they know the rules and just because a grown-up was there and not stopping them doesn't mean it was okay to break the rules. He said something about how Grandpa doesn't know the rules so they need to help him follow the rules too.

I was saying it was fine, nobody was hurt, it was easy to clean up, the pens were non-toxic, etc. and I was cooking dinner not too far away. DH thinks the children will be safer alone than with Grandpa, because they look to him for feedback and because he kind of eggs them on and encourages them to do more risky things, and that my dad doesn't have much common sense. It's not just the pens, for example, but we let him go off alone with DD in the park today for quite a while, trusting that she at least would be responsible. And she is, but DH argued that by herself she would be more inclined to be responsible and trust her judgment, but with him she would trust his judgment more and he would be not as safe about some things.

On the bright side, my dad did call me at one point and ask me what to do because she got in a long line for ice cream and she seemed determined to wait in it until she got to the front. I told him she didn't have any money, he was the grown-up, and he could tell her that she could not have any ice cream. :laugh:

Okay, I have been very wordy and looking back on it, my problems seem very petty. I'm sick and cranky and S. cried all night last night and we have 3 days in a row where he is not getting a nap, so this kind of sucks. He did not go to bed gently tonight, either, despite no nap, but he gave me a bunch of sloppy kisses and said, "Love you Mommy! Love you!"

Chrissy, I can see why you would be surprised about me admitting to feeling demoralized about getting older and feeling physically worse, because I really try hard to keep a positive attitude about my body. I grew up without a very destructive self-image. I was shy, and I was self-conscious, but I didn't focus on my physical flaws. When I did focus on anything, it was usually internal, and as I got older I tried to counter any negativity with a positive change. Thus my quests to travel and learn new skills and ride a motorcycle and snowboard and scubadive, etc. The past year has been really tough on me. I've been feeling a lot worse, physically and emotionally, and it really sucks to just not feel desirable any more, along with getting older and saggier. I would be so happy to be ogled right now. By anyone.

Bridget, I am sooo happy for Kai! I didn't know they made plain white pull-ups. We get GoodNites Underwear Pajama Protection with Cool New Graphics, which are blue/white camoflage and monster trucks. They are for 38 pounds and up, but DS has been wearing them and he is only 34 pounds also. I think they're a little more comfy than the regular pull-ups, and they seem to hold just as much, if not more.

All this talk about exercise is making me feel slightly uncomfortable, but not uncomfortable enough to actually do any. Everyone at work is doing all these walks and marathons, and what's more, they're doing them for benefits. I'm giving them money. But they keep trying to have me actually do them also. I tell them I can barely take time to shower, and they're lucky I manage to do that, but they're pressing me. Agh.

Oh, Chrissy, CONGRATS on the size 4. That is awesome. I am 5'7" and I know I could never wedge myself into a size 4, no way, no how. That is amazing.

AmeriBrit

04-15-2012, 01:35 AM

Katy, girl, I did not think you were a day over 30! You still got it, for sure! People have always told me that I look younger than I am. Like, last year when we got picked up to go to the airport for our vacation, the van driver was talking to dh and I and asking us how long we'd been together, etc. and you could see he was trying to do the math in his head, and he was like, "Were you like 12 when you 2 met? You're only like 20, aren't you?" I thanked him and told him I was 30 and he was shocked. DH says I accept compliments like that too easily. He says I'm supposed to protest and say stuff, like, "Oh, no, I don't look THAT young" instead of being like, "Oh, thanks, I get that all the time" (which is what I say alot....LOL). I am afraid,though, as I get older that my tendonitis and arthritis issues will get worse and I'll eventually be crippled by it. :(

Erin, I didn't know that you had an eating disorder. (Hugs).

Shelley, that is so true about British humor. I used to roll my eyes at Brits who would say stuff about Americans not getting their humor, but I now see what they are talking about. I've met a few new expats lately who seem SO American to me...I guess that means I'm slowly being assimilated to the other side! Brits have a certain meanness to their humor that I think takes Americans awhile to not take so seriously. They love laughing at themselves and it takes you awhile to realize that they are not making fun of you, but accepting you in to the gang by laughing at you. It sounds harsh, but it's not, really.

All this talk of exercise makes me want to go for a run! I have finally started seeing results from zumba. I go two times a week. My tummy is actually starting to look toned, which I thought it never would! Remember those bikinis I posted? I bought the white one with flowers on it and it actually looks really good on me! It's taken awhile for zumba to feel like it's done much for me. I've been going for 6 months and nearly gave up on it, but I decided to stick it out awhile. I am still not very good at it, but it's a lot like pilates in some ways, so my core muscles can feel the difference.

Inca

04-15-2012, 08:37 AM

I hate exercising. There. I said it. Though I like doing things that don't seem like exercise, like walking. But running, nuh uh. Weight lifting, not my thing. Zumba, nah. So here I sit, all blobby. :eyeroll:

3andMe

04-15-2012, 09:59 AM

Yes, I love walking. I could walk all day and all night. I think part of it stems from grade school, back when I lived in El Paso and I was the only white kid in school. I have very fair skin and the second I start exercising I turn bright red. You all know one of those kids. I am that kid. I also blush like that. It has nothing to do with how fit I am. I did gymnastics, soccer, dance, etc. I ran around all the time. But those kids in my school used to laugh at me every time I turned red, whether it was from embarrassment or from exercise. They called me "El Tomate." I started hating running then. Before then, I would go jogging with my dad along the canals at night.

AmeriBrit

04-15-2012, 10:08 AM

L, that is really sad. I hate that kids are so cruel when they are young. It's sad that empathy isn't abundant in humans.

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 10:19 AM

Lately though she has been more critical of DH not helping with chores. She knows now that I work way more than he does both inside and outside the house. She also knows via our conversations that I have stepped back a lot on my chores because I just don't feel that they are a priority. As long as we don't have bugs and the house doesn't stink then I am fine. She now mostly harasses DH about helping without prompts and she apologizes to me about his behavior because she "didn't raise him like that," which is what she tells him as she cuts him a mean look. I think she is now embarrassed by his lack of assistance in our house.

Erin

Now that I could tolerate! :laugh:

Actually, I don't talk about this much but Rich wasn't that good to me when I was in labor with Conner. It's not that he was mean, but he was the furthest thing from supportive that you could get. His mother was doing the hushed whisper thing saying, "Get over there to your wife! She's in pain!" He was literally groaning and walking away from me with each contraction. I hated him and never felt more alone and helpless, and I appreciated his mother giving him hell because I couldn't. I think that's the only time she's ever stuck up for me in anything.

All this talk of exercise makes me want to go for a run! I have finally started seeing results from zumba. I go two times a week. My tummy is actually starting to look toned, which I thought it never would! Remember those bikinis I posted? I bought the white one with flowers on it and it actually looks really good on me! It's taken awhile for zumba to feel like it's done much for me. I've been going for 6 months and nearly gave up on it, but I decided to stick it out awhile. I am still not very good at it, but it's a lot like pilates in some ways, so my core muscles can feel the difference.

Um, yeah...now I wanna try Zumba. Go girl! I'm glad you stuck with it and you're seeing results!

Yes, I love walking. I could walk all day and all night. I think part of it stems from grade school, back when I lived in El Paso and I was the only white kid in school. I have very fair skin and the second I start exercising I turn bright red. You all know one of those kids. I am that kid. I also blush like that. It has nothing to do with how fit I am. I did gymnastics, soccer, dance, etc. I ran around all the time. But those kids in my school used to laugh at me every time I turned red, whether it was from embarrassment or from exercise. They called me "El Tomate." I started hating running then. Before then, I would go jogging with my dad along the canals at night.

I too turn bright red when I exercise. I don't remember getting picked on for it, but growing up in lily-white upstate NY I wasn't the only kid that was running around looking like a beet. :D

I could also walk all day long. If you and your family ever find yourselves in upstate NY, I know where there are some fantastic family friendly gorges. Ithaca is gorges! Plus, we have the Cornell Plantations that are simply spectacular (and free!).

AmeriBrit

04-15-2012, 11:06 AM

We should do a heathen walk across the Yorkshire moors!

daylilies

04-15-2012, 11:14 AM

I turn red when I exercise too. Another reason I stay indoors. I don't want people pulling over asking me if I'm alright. :P
I hate exercise too, but if I have a plan and/or a goal it's easier. I told DH about the couch to 5k thing and he might do it too.

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 01:31 PM

We should do a heathen walk across the Yorkshire moors!

I'm game!!

I turn red when I exercise too. Another reason I stay indoors. I don't want people pulling over asking me if I'm alright. :P
I hate exercise too, but if I have a plan and/or a goal it's easier. I told DH about the couch to 5k thing and he might do it too.

I hope he does.

I bought my runnin sneaks today. I'm going to cheat and get a head start Kate. I justify this because I now smoke so it's going to take me twice as long to get up to 3 miles :P

daylilies

04-15-2012, 01:34 PM

Cheater! :P No really, I don't mind. You'll probably get there faster anyway because you've ran before and I haven't. If you find the first few weeks are just too easy I don't care if you skip ahead.

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 01:42 PM

Cheater! :P No really, I don't mind. You'll probably get there faster anyway because you've ran before and I haven't. If you find the first few weeks are just too easy I don't care if you skip ahead.

My first goal is just to jog/walk as fast as I can for 20 minutes straight. I'll do that for this week.

daylilies

04-15-2012, 01:54 PM

Okay!

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 01:55 PM

Okay!

I just need to stop plotting my dream map and go change. :D

An ambitious goal: http://www.runningmap.com/?id=379393 in 90 minutes...and it's very hilly. Very.

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 04:09 PM

So I did it. I ran/walked a bit. I am going to die. :lol: Wow this is going to be hard to get into the grove!

daylilies

04-15-2012, 04:34 PM

Lol!

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 06:46 PM

So what do you guys use in your hair when you work out every day? My hair is already brittle and dry, but there's no way I can do the wash-every-other-day thing if I'm running.

daylilies

04-15-2012, 07:38 PM

When I used to work out more I'd still take a shower every day but only wash/condition my hair every other day. It seems to do fine.

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 07:42 PM

hmm....just wetting the hair was enough to get the sweat out?

daylilies

04-15-2012, 07:43 PM

Yeah, for me it was. Maybe you're more sweaty than I am though :P

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 07:46 PM

Yeah, for me it was. Maybe you're more sweaty than I am though :P

Could be!

Inca

04-15-2012, 08:06 PM

Cant hurt to try just using water. I only have a chance to shower every other day. Oh yeah baby.

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 08:08 PM

That's all I do now too Liz, but if I'm running I'm gonna need it more.

girlwonder

04-15-2012, 08:32 PM

Chrissy - you might also put conditioner in your hair and massage it around then rinse out. Good for you for starting running again - I think with everything going on the way it is in your life right now you will really benefit from the endorphins and time alone doing something good for yourself. And you too, Kate! I am also a red-face exerciser. It put me off exercising for many years until I realized that no one cares what I look like except me. I just let go of that fear/care/worry and haven't ever let it bother me again.

Erin - I'm sorry you had that diagnosis. I hope you are able to find a good time to exercise. I'm not a morning person OR a runner, but I have found that my favorite time to run is right before sunrise in the morning. I really feel great when I get home and have accomplished one of my top three priorities before 8 am, which is a good feeling too. But since sleeping is my numero uno favorite activity on earth I have a hard time doing that more than twice a week!

Thanks for all the compliments, everyone! Some days I feel fine and some days not.

We had a good weekend. Went to see "Jiro Dreams of Sushi" last night. It was a really good movie about a Tokyo sushi making family dynasty. If you are a sushi fan you should definitely go see it! But even if not it is an interesting movie about the life of a top sushi maker and the sacrifices, etc. that go into honing your craft and becoming a master in your field. Some food for thought for me. We had some of my favorite people over for dinner tonight and we had a really nice visit. They brought amazing cheeses, which I don't often get to eat any more because of diet so I was really enjoying that. Yummy brillat savarin triple cream and a lovely sharp stilton and gruyere-like cheese with delicious crusty bread (another thing I avoid on a regular basis). DH made a pretty good soup we got out of the NY Times the other day: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/health/nutrition/spinach-bouillabaisse.html?_r=1&ref=health It was pretty easy and yummy and healthy too! And for dessert I had fresh strawberries in a bowl aside a bowl of greek yogurt mixed with brown sugar and a touch of vanilla for dipping. We gobbbled it all within about 5 minutes - oh, it was so good. I love plain untouched strawberries.

missychrissy

04-15-2012, 08:41 PM

Bridget

04-15-2012, 10:09 PM

Yay for running! I should join you guys. We go for a walk every day at least once and I try to run the hills, or I do lunges while Savana and Kai lollygag because they can watch a bug for a long time.

Hey, did you guys know that I could just lay Sawyer in his crib and let him cry AND stop breastfeeding him and he will magically sleep through the night? I'm learning so much these past couple of days. :laugh:
It's not so bad though, really. The worst thing that happened today was that she wanted to go to walmart. Dbf was leaving so I asked him to come right back so that he could be home while Sawyer napped and I could take her to walmart. I didn't want to take Sawyer because he is pretty sick right now and I don't like to drag him to germ cess pools when he is ill. Plus he'd be miserable. So dbf says he will be back in an hour. He takes 2 hours. Then he has some guy coming over to buy a ladder and the guy stays forever because dbf has to take him around our whole property, show him the boathouse, god knows wtf else. Sawyers nap has came and went. Poor Kai and Savana were waiting all day to go get a movie to watch with their Oma. I can tell Kai is nearing the point where taking him out could be a disaster so I say to dbf to remember to be patient since Kai is tired. He says everything will be fine since all they are doing is going to the movie store and back. I explain to him that they have to go to Walmart and he throws a tantrum. Like, an actual temper tantrum. Do your dh's do this?
"I am not going to Walmart on a sunday. That's not happening. That is not fun for me. Do you think that's fun for me?" I keep telling him yes he is going, his mother needs some things. We've been waiting on him for four hours. If he's have come home when he said, or if he was willing and able to stay with his youngest son for any stretch of time I would happily take her (and I am the one that hates Walmart! He goes there all time against my wishes lol). He cussed and stomped around. The last thing I said to him when he left was that he should be ashamed of himself the way he was acting. He actually came home and apologized to me which is rare.

missychrissy

04-16-2012, 06:04 AM

:shocker: Um, no Bridget, I can say Rich has ever thrown a tantrum. I'm glad he apologized but geeze. I don't know how you don't bonk him on the head with a marble rolling pin sometimes.

I thighs hurt. :laugh:

MashedUp

04-16-2012, 06:12 AM

Boy, I missed a lot! I need to go shopping for a super-duper awesome sports bra so I can start exercising better. Right now, anything that involves any sort of bouncing, etc is not cool. I'm signed up to do this mud run/obstacle course thing on June 3 and it's almost 5 miles long. I'm probably going to die.

My DH was gone with his brothers and dad for a guys weekend, so my best friend and I took our kids to the wildlife park saturday, then they came over for a slumber party. We all had a blast, the kids played and watched a movie, then we stayed up drinking and talking. We don't get to see each other super often, so it's nice to have some time to just catch up.

Inca

04-16-2012, 06:38 AM

Bridget, I think you already know my answer to your question. :lol: That being said, this weekend was decent in terms of weekends go around here. I think he was picking up on my lack of interest in him. He didn't like being ignored, so he started acting nice. :laugh:

Ky'sMom

04-16-2012, 07:29 AM

My DH is a major tantrum thrower. He throws way more tantrums than Elle does, who is mostly tantrumless. She will even tell DH that he needs to take deep breaths! LOL.

DH has always been one to have tantrums though so they don't bother me like they used to. If he starts to go into tantrum mode I talk to him like a baby and ask him if he needs to go sit on the steps (Elle's cool down spot) until he feels better. He will glare at me and usually either do what I asked or leave. I don't care really either way. Unfortunately, Ky also still will throw a tantrum. He was a crazy tantrum thrower as a toddler, like at least 10 tantrums per day, which is why I waited so long to have another kid because I felt that I could not endure the "battles" again so soon, if ever. Plus I had DH's tantrums to contend with.

So yes, my DH has tantrums. They are pretty hilarious to me now, even though they used to be shocking and upsetting years ago. He has also had tantrums out in public back when we were first together that used to embarrass me, which is why he did them, he admitted this to me. After that I stopped getting embarrassed by him and when people look at him like he's crazy, which they still do when he decides to go into a tantrum-like state when we go places, I look and stare at him too and walk away from him.

Erin

Cosmosmom

04-16-2012, 09:06 AM

Um, my DH can throw tantrums too. Usually not in public though. Kind of had one yesterday and we had a fight about Poogie (she's a great dog but we are not in agreement on how to deal with her eating Cosmo's poop....so disgusting and she's 7 months old and still doing it....uggg). Than he said something he's not said in a long time....that maybe we shouldn't have a kid together (because of course even though we are pretty in synch the vast majority of the time, we might disagree about the kid). So of course I said maybe not because I thought it was a done deal decision and if he's going to do that, I should just realize that it's not going to happen. And than I went in the room that will be the nursery and looked at my stuffed and cried. So than he's in there and sees me all upset and feels awful because he says his goal in life is to make me happy. And yeah we are still having a kid....he just gets scared and freaks out and than I freak out and it spirals out of control.

LOL Bridget....my MIL is great but last weekend she was shocked that my BFF was still nursing her 15 month old a few times a day. And of course that is why she doesn't sleep through the night. (she didn't tell my BFF this but me after they left). She thought was disgusting to be bf so long. I was like, she's still a baby she doesn't even really talk much yet and it's common and recommended to more than a year if you can nursing. I just kind of rolled my eyes at that one....I'm not going to be bfing myself but think it's great that my friend was able to do it so long and until last month worked full-time.
She's mostly pretty awesome but she's not much for telling me what to do....she knows I'm bossy and will just do what I want anyway.

I'm not running. I don't run. Last time I really tried jogging was over 5 years ago and I was at my lightest weight and I still got a hairline fracture in my foot. I jogged one block. I also don't really like walking. Unless it is for a reason like I'm at the mall or the Vegas strip. LOL
currently I feel that I have another hairline fracture in my other foot from when I slipped last weeked....same pain as the last time I did this. So I'm just taking it easy for now until it stops hurting and than it will be back on the elliptical for me. I don't despise the elliptical. I would like to work up to 1.5 miles on it. Last time I was at .5 miles...that was like two weeks ago...I was doing great but got sick with a flu bug, had company and hurt my foot.

Suja

04-16-2012, 09:23 AM

We had a really nice weekend. My friends showed up late for lunch (not a surprise, they're always late for everything), and we were having so much fun, they stayed for dinner too. I was beat at the end of the day, 'cause I had been on my feet pretty much all day Friday and Saturday, and come 10:00 PM, still had stacks of dishes to clean and food to put away. Yesterday, we went to SIL's house - I packed a bunch of stuff from Saturday, 'cause she didn't have any time to do anything special, and I wanted to get the tempting food out of this house so I wouldn't sit and eat it all. BIL was out playing cricket when we went, but called me last night just to tell me how much he was enjoying dessert :laugh:

And this morning, Mira threw the mother of all temper tantrums. She didn't want me to put away her toys, she didn't want to change out of her PJs, she didn't want to go to school... WAAAAAAH! Puke! Then she was all good once we got to school and got dropped off. I think she has been having a little too much fun on the weekends, and that's why she wants to stay home. She hasn't said that since the early days of starting school. From now on, we might have to 'ration' the fun - maybe do some of it in the afternoons once I pick her up from school (we have a playdate tomorrow with a friend and her 2 year old that I haven't seen in a year), and just do chores and stuff at least one day a week, so she'd be more bored at home.

I've been serious about eating right and working out for about 2 months now. Virtually no change on the scale (not unexpected, I need fat loss/muscle gain, not necessarily weight loss, although a little bit wouldn't hurt), but I am seeing changes in inches and how the clothes fit me. I really cannot do cardio because of my bad feet, so for now, it's mostly circuit training, strength training, pilates and yoga, with just a smidge of cardio thrown in.

AmeriBrit

04-16-2012, 10:58 AM

I need some advice, ladies. A few months ago, someone who I used to go to church with as a teenager died of cancer, so I sent her husband a card saying that I was sorry for his loss. The card was in no way religious at all. After that, he sent me an e-mail to say thanks for thinking of him and a few days later, he sent a friend request on FB. So, I thought there was no harm in it as he's just an old guy who I used to know. Any how, in his e-mail, he asked if I had found a church to go to. Then, today, he's sent a message asking again if I ever found a church and if I haven't, he could try to help by sending some info through. I've realized he's hardcore religious with some of the stuff I've seen him post on FB, so how do I inform him that I no longer am a believer/church-goer type person? I'm struggling with finding the words that will make it not sound so negative, but I'd like him to back off the church stuff. I don't think I can just ignore him as one of my cousins still goes to the same church as he does, so he'll probably ask her about it if I don't reply in some way. Any thoughts?

girlwonder

04-16-2012, 11:05 AM

I would just tell him you are all squared away for church and thanks for asking. If he persists then I would let him know that you are not a religious person and will not require any further assistance thank you vet much goodbye

girlwonder

04-16-2012, 11:06 AM

Very

AmeriBrit

04-16-2012, 11:11 AM

:) Thanks, Katy. I think I will try that approach and hope he doesn't ask follow up questions!

missychrissy

04-16-2012, 11:23 AM

I was going to suggest the same as Katy...Thanks, but I'm good! I'd ignore any further inquiries.

I've been up to campus twice because the jocks in athletics don't think it's important to keep scheduled appointments. The 2nd time the supervisor told my supervisor that yes, they were there and ready. I get up there and start going through my check-list and then the supervisor up there starts in with, "how long is this going to take? Can we go to lunch?" I finally hit a roadblock and had to let them go...so the computer still isn't set up. :pokey:

girlwonder

04-16-2012, 01:27 PM

Cosmosmom

04-16-2012, 01:40 PM

Ugg, woke up with a headache so I caved and took a tylenol. Didn't have time for breakfast. End up at work with a stomach ache, likely the tylenol. Eventually caved and took something for the stomach ache so I could actually be at my desk getting some work done. I feel like a mess today.

Good news though, it hurt much less putting my shoe on this morning (once on it's ok) so maybe the foot is going to heal faster than I expected.

AmeriBrit

04-16-2012, 02:42 PM

It might also help when you reply to keep foremost in your mind that he is probably just wanting to do something that he feels will help you and that you would find valuable. It's very sweet that he would go to the trouble, which makes it that much more distressing to deal with if he persists.

That's the thing. He's thinking he's helping me out, but I'm definitely not in to his religion any more. He posted something the other day on his Wall about Obama and the homosexuals running the country to the ground. I don't know how he'll take the news that i'm not one of them any more. Sigh.

daylilies

04-16-2012, 04:03 PM

Dh doesn't throw tantrums, but I do sometimes!

I hate it when he takes longer than he says he will. It happens a lot. I make plans around it and I end up having to wait up.

I took Josh to Concord, MA today where I used to live, for the Patriots Day parade. It was awesome. They have a pretty big parade (being Concord, and all) and Josh stood up the whole time and went "Wooooo! Wooooo!" I will post a video when I get around to it.
I miss Concord, but I certainly can't afford to live there like my parents did.

Katy I agree with the advice you got about the guy on fb. And if he persisted I wouldn't feel bad about defriending him.

missychrissy

04-16-2012, 04:49 PM

I'm beginning to think I'm the biggest witch that's ever walked the planet because there's no way Rich would have gotten to an hour late for something we had planned without him hearing about it.

Actually, I did take the kids myself for many years because either he was preoccupied with other things, didn't like the people involved (generally my family), or would act so bad after I found it easier to just go without him. But there were still times when we planned things all together and I know I wouldn't have waited. When we're supposed to go at a certain time, I better see everyone getting ready.

daylilies

04-16-2012, 05:30 PM

Oh, if we have to be somewhere, he's ready early. But if he's out with Josh, or at a friend's house, he's never home when he originally projected that he would be. I can't do anything about it at that point, so I sit at home and stew.

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 06:27 PM

DH has tantrums on occasion. Less often now than he used to, but he still does every so often. I ignore them. Like Erin, it used to bother me but now I'm used to it. A lot of it I put down to his military experience, though (he hates that and would probably have a tantrum if he even knew I was saying that) and I figure there's going to be a few issues dealing with him. I've noticed if there's something underneath that is bothering him, he's more likely to get upset about stupid stuff but when he's in a better mood he lets things slide. Honestly, I'm the same way so I can't blame him for that.

I am confused about prenatal vitamins. I've been meaning to research the whole folate issue but haven't talked to my doctor since all that went on (avoiding, mostly). I was looking for a new bottle of prenatal vitamins today. This fall, my doctor gave me a prescription for folic acid and told me I should take 3000mcg - he gave me a prescription folic acid pill and told me to take two of those plus a prenatal vitamin. I pointed out my prenatal had 800mcg so that was 2800mcg total unless he wanted me to take 3 extra pills. He said I was fine with 2 + a prenatal. Today we were at a store that has a lot of organic/hippy stuff and they had a special prenatal vitamin for women who are TTC. It had 5mg (5000mcg) of folic acid plus guaifenasin (mucinex - which a lot of people take to help with CM and I have been meaning to try). I thought about getting it, but I have a ton of prescription folic acid lying around the house and just felt it would be a waste - but maybe a 5mg pill would be good? I was confused, though, because I have only ever seen 400mcg or 800mcg folic acid in prenatals and understood you needed a prescription for 1000mcg or more so I was afraid the package was lying and it didn't really have that much. Another prenatal had 800mcg of *folate* instead of folic acid. I ended up going with the 800mcg folate pill.

I know none of you know or care - but I'm confused so I'm sharing. Sorry.

Suja

04-16-2012, 07:02 PM

Mandy, we care, even if we don't have the answers. I remember reading something about how folate is a more bioavailable form or something. Not helpful. Sorry!

daylilies

04-16-2012, 07:20 PM

Same here, I don't know, but I care. :) I feel like I should know more about it since I took extra folic acid to help prevent spina bifida, but I don't remember hearing anything about folate and I honestly don't know the difference.

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 07:25 PM

How much did you take, Kate? I imagine you are in just about the highest risk category so I'm interested in the dosage they wanted you to have.

missychrissy

04-16-2012, 07:25 PM

Same here, I don't know, but I care. :) ...

Me too. I care a great deal. I wish I could offer knowledge, but I'm sure L will be along with some input on it.

3andMe

04-16-2012, 07:31 PM

Me too. I care a great deal. I wish I could offer knowledge, but I'm sure L will be along with some input on it.

Actually, this is something I know absolutely nothing about. I could do some research, but you guys who are in the front lines know more about these things than I do. I don't even know the recommended dose for folic acid off the top of my head. Just like one of our average specialist MDs doesn't know the normal dose for tylenol if he needs to write an order for it. If you want, I can try to read up on it once I'm done with my dinner (I'm eating at the computer) and the kids are in bed. I probably am good at sorting through medical information more quickly than the average person.

And my dh doesn't throw temper tantrums, but he does get sulky.

Bridget

04-16-2012, 07:31 PM

I'm with everyone else thus far in caring a whole lot but not having answers for you.

missychrissy

04-16-2012, 07:37 PM

:D L, you're not perfect and 100% knowledgeable in all medical topics? My perception of you was a wee bit off. :laugh:

Maybe Jennifer will know. She's another smart one about this sort of thing. And what about Abbeysmom? She seems to have a lot of general knowledge stuff floating around in her head too.

We're a smart bunch. Or y'all are and I"m just sitting here in awe of everyone. :D (j/k!!! I am smart in my little area of expertise).

Speaking of...did I mention I really, really hate jocks? And the athletics dept is one that I support at Cornell. Who would have thought all their administrative assistants would be testosterone filled 20-something guys? Pompous jerks they are. :pokey:

daylilies

04-16-2012, 07:41 PM

How much did you take, Kate? I imagine you are in just about the highest risk category so I'm interested in the dosage they wanted you to have.

Gosh I wish I could remember but I really don't :( A prenatal plus a folic acid pill but I don't know how many mg :( Sorry!

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 07:49 PM

L, if it's something you can look at quickly I'd appreciate it but don't do a bunch of research on my behalf. You have plenty to deal with at home.

I was thinking of asking my dad to research it as he's put quite a bit of time into researching folic acid and MTHFR but he has a tendency to go completely overboard and drive me insane. It's kind of a hot-button issue with him after we had a death in the family, which I do understand. His asperger's tendencies tend to drive him a little too far, though, and he can make me crazy on the subject. Especially because he's a physicist, not a physician, and he doesn't always realize when he doesn't understand medical terminology - although he is brilliant.

What I do know is that the recommended dose is "at least 400mcg" and OTC prenatals either have 400, 600, or 800mcg. I did think you needed a prescription for more than 1000mcg. People at risk for neural tube defects are supposed to take 4000mcg. I have searched and searched and can't find a standard recommended dosage for MTHFR - everyone agrees I need to take more than the average dosage, but not as much as the high-risk neural tube defect category. After my m/c in 2008, the doctor I saw then told me to take 1000mcg extra. 3000mcg that my doc recommended does sound reasonable, but I'm kind of of the mindset that you can't really take too much.

missychrissy

04-16-2012, 07:52 PM

...but I'm kind of of the mindset that you can't really take too much.

I don't know...at some point there's bound to be a 'too much' threshold...but who knows what that is?

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 07:56 PM

I read somewhere (can't quote a source, so maybe I'm wrong) that the only really negative to extra folic acid is that it masks deficiency in another B vitamin. In and of itself, it isn't harmful but that is the reason it is prescription in higher doses.

Bridget

04-16-2012, 09:15 PM

You guys want to hear something funny? The other night when I came into the living room balancing 2 full laundry baskets, dumped them in a pile and proceeded to fold, dbf said, "Baby, I feel so sorry for you that you are always working so hard."

And that was it.

He didn't get up to help me. :lol:

Then today he tell me that he is playing so much poker because he want to make enough money so that I don't have to work so hard. I don't get it. What is going to change if you make more money? I am going to hire an assistant? The only thing that is going to lessen my work load is for you to SHARE IT WITH ME. This is not rocket science.
Also I left Sawyer with him and mil today for less than 2 hours and took Savana and Kai out for a bit. When i came home they were both practically sweating because apparently Sawyer missed me so much and it was really hard for them. Lol. Of course I had to hear about how the reason it's so hard for him is because he's SO used to being with me ALL the time that he just doesn't know what to do when I'm gone. I'm like really? A baby cried when his mama left? What extreme behavior. :eyeroll:
As much as everyone is drilling home the point that I need to take time away from my kids I think they should have done me a solid and told me everything was fine while i was gone. Now I just feel like **** about how sad he was the whole time and how hard it apparently was on everyone for me to go to the library for a freaking minute.

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 09:20 PM

3andMe

04-16-2012, 09:27 PM

What I have been seeing so far is that supplementation and treatment is dependent on your homocysteine levels, so the degree to which you have been affected by MTHFR. You can actually have both copies of the gene, and still have normal homocysteine levels, and not need any intervention.

I am seeing a lot of conflicting evidence, mostly because studies have not been proving anything, one way or the other. Here is a current (April 2012) snip from an article from the American Heart Association. I would go with the 4 mg folate supplementation if okay with your doctor--that's 10x the normal recommended dose, and the same dose that women with spina bifida or other neural tube defects take. Frankly, though, 3000 mcg is really a lot more than the 400 mcg per day that is recommended for an average pregnant woman, and if people don't really know, it doesn't seem all that different in terms of scale than 4000 mcg (4 mg). So, I guess what I'm saying is that if it's important to you, you could probably argue FOR taking 4 mg per day, but there isn't necessarily any evidence that shows it is worth taking and 3 mg/3000 mcg per day is still a lot.

That probably didn't help that much. I'm sorry.

MTHFR mutations have been linked in some studies to an increased chance of having a baby with a neural tube defect (spina bifida). One study suggested that mothers with 2 MTHFR mutations were twice as likely to have a baby with a neural tube defect, whereas other studies have not supported this finding. Recent research has implied that risks vary, based on the nutritional status of the mother (ie, folate levels, vitamin intake) and whether or not she has an elevated homocysteine level. Because of this controversy, some practitioners may recommend extra folate supplementation (usually 4 mg) for women with 2 MTHFR mutations, whereas other practitioners will recommend normal use of prenatal vitamins containing folic acid for a woman who does not have an elevated homocysteine level.

There is also conflicting evidence about the relation between homozygous MTHFR mutations and pregnancy complications (including preeclampsia, placental abruption, recurrent pregnancy loss, and intrauterine growth restriction, as described earlier). A recent meta-analysis, which combined all of the data from these studies, found that there was not an association between MTHFR and recurrent pregnancy loss. It seems that homozygous MTHFR may moderately increase the risk of preeclampsia and placental abruption, but more research in this area is necessary. Although it is not standard medical practice to test for MTHFR mutations when a woman has a history of these complications, some practitioners may order this testing.

Can women get too much folic acid?

You can't get too much folic acid from foods that naturally contain it. But unless your doctor tells you otherwise, do not consume more than 1,000 mcg of folic acid a day. Consuming too much folic acid can hide signs that a person is lacking vitamin B12, which can cause nerve damage. Lacking vitamin B12 is rare among women of childbearing age. Plus, most prenatal vitamins also contain B12 to help women get all that they need. People at risk of not having enough vitamin B12 are mainly people 50 years and older and people who eat no animal products.

AbbeysMom

04-16-2012, 09:34 PM

The Megafood Prenatal Herb-free (http://www.vitacost.com/megafood-baby-and-me-herb-free) is what I took and am currently taking. It has Folate because it's sourced from food rather than a manufactured vitamin (the folate is from broccoli). I don't know if they make just a folate-only supplement, but there is a risk of toxicity (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/folate-HealthProfessional/) from taking too much of the manufactured version (folic acid), but it's super low too.

It couldn't hurt to eat more asparagus, lima beans, and artichokes too... they are all great natural sources of B9 and I've always thought your body absorbs more nutrients from food anyway.

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 09:50 PM

Thanks to both of you. Both of your links confirm what I had already heard, that the concern with elevated folic acid is that it could mask b12 deficiency, which is especially unlikely if I am already taking a prenatal with b12. Molly's link also mentioned an elevated risk of seizures in people who take anticonvulsant meds, but I don't take anticonvulsants so that is not a concern for me.

I am going to go with the ones I bought today - 800mcg folate supplemented with the 2 1mg folic acid pills until my prescription runs put, and then I will ask the doc about the 5mg pill. I do wonder how it's available without a prescription, though.

missychrissy

04-16-2012, 10:17 PM

Oh Bridget :hugs: Do you ever say anything to him when he makes a statement like that? It doesn't seem like the idea to actually physically help is gonna cross his mind.

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 10:19 PM

Oh, L, I forgot to say that my doctor tested my folate levels (which were slightly low, but not very) but did not check my homocysteine. My Dad got really mad that I said the doc didn't test that but I supposed in the end if the folate was low, I needed to supplement. Do you think I should have someone (this doc or maybe even an endo) check my homocysteine now?

3andMe

04-16-2012, 10:41 PM

Checking your homocysteine levels is apparently what will tell you if you actually have a clinically significant MTHFR (it always sounds so dirty when I write out that abbreviation), so it seems like knowing that should make a difference as to how you are treated.

And Bridget, that sucks. DID you tell them how that made you feel?

DH and I were having a nice dinner the other night and then he talked about how tired he was and how he wanted to take the child voted most likely to sleep for his bedtime duty. I said the baby's bedroom included some chores, like putting sheets on the crib first and hopefully putting away laundry. He pretended he didn't know what the word chores meant and was laughing about it with the kids. He took time to explain to them what "jibber-jabber" meant in the context of how the word "chores" sounded to him. He did not know why I went from lighthearted to unhappy. He got angry with me, and accused me of having so sense of humor. He followed me around angrily asking me what he did wrong and not letting me answer him when I tried to tell him. I told him later--and I had to tell him to shut up and listen to me-- that I could survive with him not helping me around the house, but it drives me crazy that the children never see a man sweeping the floors or doing laundry or cleaning the bathrooms or cooking dinner, and him laughing about not knowing what the word chores means is just driving the point home. He told me that I was reading too much into it, and the children didn't understand the greater context of it, but I was upset that he seemed to think it was so trivial. After quite a while, he finally admitted that he still didn't quite get it, but he apologized, which is more than he usually does when we argue, and I gratefully took it.

I was thinking of that when you talked about temper tantrums, Bridget. When I get upset about anything (whether or not it's directly related to DH, and whether I'm sad or annoyed), DH gets angry, as if I have wrongfully accused him of something and he needs to immediately show me exactly why I am completely incorrect. No matter how often I tell him that the best thing to do would be to say that is too bad, I'm sorry you're hurting, or whatever, he just gets mad. It's very frustrating.

Gwenn

04-16-2012, 10:59 PM

I have (for obvious reasons) been rather unhappy lately and DH just does not seem to really get it. He knows I'm unhappy but i'm having trouble getting him to acknowledge that I'm just going to be sad right now. I think many men don't want to hear about their partner's emotions unless they are able to something immediate to fix them. In a situation like mine it's hard because there's really nothing he can do. I pointed out to him,that it's common for women to experience depression when dealing with infertility and he seemed totally shocked. To me that just makes sense. Men really don't get women's emotions. The older I get the more I realize how true that is.

MashedUp

04-17-2012, 06:04 AM

A little late to the party, and it looks like the others have answered most of your questions mandy. Folate is the form naturally found in food. Folic acid is the synthetic form found in vitamins or added to processed foods. I know some stuff about the chemistry behind it and how it's measured, but nothing specific to MTHFR.

missychrissy

04-17-2012, 08:07 AM

I was thinking of that when you talked about temper tantrums, Bridget. When I get upset about anything (whether or not it's directly related to DH, and whether I'm sad or annoyed), DH gets angry, as if I have wrongfully accused him of something and he needs to immediately show me exactly why I am completely incorrect. No matter how often I tell him that the best thing to do would be to say that is too bad, I'm sorry you're hurting, or whatever, he just gets mad. It's very frustrating.

Rich also gets angry when I'm upset. Even if it's not about him or anything he's done. He doesn't really take it out on me much, but his mood definitely changes and he's more likely to snap at the kids or just act 'pissed off' in general. The last time I was really upset about my struggles with balancing our budget (we have enough $, I'm just math challenged) his first response was, "Well maybe we should break up then!" :shock: He was taking my anger/frustration as a sign that I was blaming him and I wasn't. I was frustrated with myself because I know I'm intelligent, but I cannot grasp math. Not even basic adding/subtracting from our banking accounts.

eta: I grasp math. I get how it works and can use a calculator...I just consistently fail at it somehow.

Suja

04-17-2012, 08:39 AM

Y'all, I got buzzed by the space shuttle this morning! :party:

Cosmosmom

04-17-2012, 09:05 AM

Uggg I hate that when they do that. My DH will do that also. I'm upset and have hurt feelings and he will try to claim his feelings are hurt first. Um no dude, I told you I was hurt first. I really have to be careful with him because he is sensitive and takes things personally.
Last night his mom and I have come to the conclusion that men just don't think right. Like she arrived last week and instead of jumping up to help carry in her bags and say hi, he was on the computer because he was almost finished with his lego building and wanted to finish that first. And this is a guy who was so excited his mom was coming up to visit.

My mom has been joking lately that my dad needs 24 hour care. He's not even 60 yet. But she works with a lot of seniors and says a lot of the men are like that....they really need to be told what to do. Just in the last week dad was cutting fiberglass and got some in his eye (fine now) and had to see the eye doc as an emergency. I was like why weren't you wearing safety glasses???? Dad worked in a factory for years and always wore them at home when doing stuff. His reply, I don't know I didn't think I needed them. WTH.

Mandy I can take a look and see if I find anything different. Based on what was posted, it wouldn't surprise me if this was an area where there isn't a set standard. I would definitely ask about getting the homocystine level checked though. And I wouldn't worry much about a B12 issue....that is not common at all for most people (I am at high risk of it and take a high dose B12 due to the surgery I had).

Oh and yeah it's super common for IF patients to be depressed. Ironically, I did a ton of research on that when I was first TTC and didn't know I was going to be one of those patients. I think it's harder most of the time on women...we tend to want the baby more and generally so much more of the treatment is focused on us. And we have to take the various hormones. I ended up gaining like 50 lbs while STC....kicking myself over that one now. And I found out that I like alcohol probably a little too much.

So I found this http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12610054 and decided I want it. DH isn't sure about it because it won't totally match the cars. OMFG. Even his mom who is picky about decor and where he gets if from was like, it would be fine and thinks he's being ridiculous. Her reply was what if the baby's outfit doesn't match? LOL FWIW, one is dark blue with a grey interior. My current car is orange with a grey and orange interior but that will be traded in for a minivan at some point and we are looking at the charcoal grey one.
I think that I will get what I want....I almost always do. :wink:

daylilies

04-17-2012, 10:26 AM

Y'all, I got buzzed by the space shuttle this morning! :party:

What do you mean??

DH is sort of the same way as some of you guys-I will tell him something bothered me and he will immediately turn it around to be my fault. He asked me the other day where a paper was that I hadn't seen in over a month. Long story short I used to play an online game but I lost interest recently. He took over my character and he was asking me the other night where a paper with some info for my character was. Like I said, I haven't played in over a month. He's been playing. So I started looking around and he snapped at me that it was in the cabinet over my desk. I said it bothered me that he asked me to get it, didn't bother to tell me where it was and then acted like it was my fault I didn't know where it was. If you knew where it was, why didn't you just get it? And he said he didn't know where it was. I was like, you just told me where it was! And I immediately thought of that article that was linked a while back that talked about how some men manipulate women to think they're insane or wrong all the time. But if I ever bring up anything like that article DH acts all hurt that I would suggest such a thing.

3andMe

04-17-2012, 12:04 PM

Y'all, I got buzzed by the space shuttle this morning! :party:

One of the guys in the rocket club posted about it today. Apparently it was the last flight for that shuttle. It was scheduled to make a low pass over the Washington DC area.

Suja

04-17-2012, 12:08 PM

What do you mean??

Mira's school is really close to the Dulles airport. Today was the spaceshuttle Discovery's last flight (it was strapped on the back of a jumbo jet with a fighter pilot escort), and they were flying looooow over the area, like 1500 - 2000 ft. I got a quick glimpse. It was AWESOME!!!

daylilies

04-17-2012, 12:11 PM

Oh wow, cool!

Cosmosmom

04-17-2012, 12:48 PM

Suja that does sound cool!!!

Bridget

04-17-2012, 01:17 PM

How exciting!

Lydia, I did not tell them how I felt when I came home. It would have been a waste of breath. I can see in mil where dbf gets his unwillingness to really listen. Mil actually spun it so that the reason it was so hard for them is because I never left Sawyer when he was a baby thus not giving him a chance to be independent. She said, "He misses you terribly because he doesn't know one thing without you" and I said, "I missed him terribly too!" to which she had no reply so that to me is a conversation that ended well:)

There are constant little things all day long like, "Here have some tea. You need to stay hydrated as often as you are nursing that baby" or "I washed your windows, they haven't been washed in ages" and "This poor baby needs to eat more. No one ever feeds him so he just plays" (because I don't generally feed him but just put his food in front of him. She tries shoving food in his mouth when he's not paying attention.)
I have to try so hard but I rarely try to plead my case.
Yesterday I was searching for my kitchen scissors that I use to cut meat and stuff. I asked her if she knew where they were and she was like, "YES. The scissors are ALWAYS in this drawer. This is where we keep them. The other drawer is too full" and she had them in the drawer with our bills and random stuff instead of with the silverware where I keep them. Wtf? Obviously I put them away where I keep them but who wants to place bets that she will move them again? If we lived close to her, little stuff like that would drive me totally insane. But since it's just this week I will keep passively aggressively moving them back lol.

3andMe

04-17-2012, 01:21 PM

I keep my scissors in the knife drawer, because that one is childproofed, and my scissors are sharp and potentially destructive of people and property if my children can just get at them any time they feel like it.

Your MIL would drive me crazy, but I can only admire your biting the tongue attitude and keeping your peace for the short time she's with you.

I should update you that the second Dad visit day went so much better than the first. We had a family party, and it was very pleasant. It was also so miraculously relaxing in that the children ran around and were nice and polite and did not need constant minding--not even the baby--and DH and I could actually have conversations with people. We have not ever once had that at a party simultaneously. We can foresee a future, almost, where we could socialize again.

missychrissy

04-17-2012, 01:22 PM

Y'all, I got buzzed by the space shuttle this morning! :party:

I saw someones video of it on Facebook---awesome. And it sorta made tears come to my eyes. I'm such a sap.

Inca

04-17-2012, 01:32 PM

How cool! I want to get buzzed. :lol:

3andMe

04-17-2012, 01:37 PM

I saw someones video of it on Facebook---awesome. And it sorta made tears come to my eyes. I'm such a sap.

Things like that often make me cry.

Inca

04-17-2012, 01:39 PM

I'm not sure it would make me tear up. Probably not. But maybe, weirder things HAVE happened. Anyone have a good video to share of it?

Bridget

04-17-2012, 01:42 PM

I cried today while reading Bluebird Summer during circle time. So much I had to stop for a minute.

Inca

04-17-2012, 01:47 PM

Never heard of that book! Off to google.

Inca

04-17-2012, 01:49 PM

Oh I just read a review. How sweet it sounds. Big :hugs: to you Bridget.

missychrissy

04-17-2012, 02:01 PM

Ky'sMom

04-17-2012, 02:03 PM

I had also never heard of the book. It does look sweet. It looks like a "No Elle" book though. She is really emotional and sensitive and any book involving a loved one passing away brings her to tears. We have a book DH bought (that I told him he might not want to read to her) about a boy with no friends except his dog and how he finally got a friend but the girl was mean to him, but even so, the boy ignored the dog and the dog was really sad, and Elle starting wailing about how mean the boy was being to the dog. I always have to read her cutesy books.

Erin

Bridget

04-17-2012, 07:33 PM

Savana can be that way too, Erin. I read her a really sad story one night and she said, "I don't think I'm ready for stories like that. They are too sad."

I seriously just pounded a glass of wine. It kind of hurt lol. But let this woman insinuate to me one more time that Sawyer isn't eating enough food and nursing too much. He has a bad cold and cough right now so he is nursing way more than normal. But regardless, leave it alone! What in the heck would be my motivation for not feeding my child enough food? That's offensive! So there's that. And then her telling me that she is buying me a new blind for my living room because the one I have is so ugly. My mom bought those blinds for us! I told her I do not think they are ugly as I wouldn't put something I thought was ugly in my home. The drop that tipped the wine glass though? She said to my that dbf is not drinking enough water so whenever I think of it I should bring him a glass of water. Too much, people. Too much.
*burp* :)

missychrissy

04-17-2012, 07:36 PM

:shocker: Oh.my.god Bridget. I cannot believe how rude she is being!

Gwenn

04-17-2012, 07:41 PM

OMG ... I think I'd ask her to leave.

Bridget

04-17-2012, 07:46 PM

Ok, so it's not just me! She is crazy I tell you. That's what I keep telling myself because it keeps me from going off. I just have to imagine that she is a crazy old lady and doesn't know any better. I really want to keep my cool. The first time she came here I showed my frustration and she cried. I cannot make an old lady cry. That's not cool.

daylilies

04-17-2012, 07:47 PM

I wish I had some wine. Again I tried that sangria I made that didn't come out good. Yup, still not good. :laugh:

I asked DH to pick up some alcohol on the way home and he made it sound like he would, but he decided not to because he was wearing his Comcast shirt, and I didn't feel like going out to get it.

I'd tell your MIL that if she's in your home she doesn't get to make comments about how you guys live.

Bridget

04-17-2012, 07:50 PM

Suja

04-17-2012, 09:05 PM

I had to tell you guys about this. Mira has been resistant to pooping in the potty. She went to the bathroom to pee, farted, then got upset 'cause she thought she had to poop, and asked for a diaper. I got one, but thought I'd distract her to see if she could poop without freaking out, and said 'Oh look, I see the trunk of an elephant sticking out your belly button'. She lifted up her shirt to look, I put my ear to her belly, made elephant noises, and said 'I hear the elephant!'. She looks at me with a serious look on her face, and says 'Mommy, there are no elephants in my bellybutton'. 'No?'. 'No. That's the monkey in my belly button. OOH! OOH! OOH!' and cracks up. Turns out, there are lots of things in her belly button, including seahorses and Elmo, just no elephants.

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 02:48 AM

MashedUp

04-18-2012, 05:17 AM

Oye Bridget, you are a saint, I definitely would have had to say something by now. Or I would have been chugging an entire bottle of wine!

I am thisclose to losing it. DS has not slept more than an hour straight in weeks. I'm getting about 4 hours of broken sleep a night and I have to get up at 5am for work. I'm frickin exhausted. :truce: I'm at a loss about what to try (besides CIO or "sleep training"). This is the baby that STTN at like 4 weeks old.

Inca

04-18-2012, 05:48 AM

So I feel a *bit* like an ass today. Maybe I should even post this in ranting/venting or something, but I only like venting to you ladies, lol. Anyways, I found a van I liked (Honda Odyssey-which is what I've known I've wanted for a while now) and ended up buying it at a dealership last night. Dbf test drove it and said it was perfect. Paid cash. I drove it home, and love it. Runs super smooth and seems to be a billion times better than what we have currently. Only downside that I saw was high miles, but so does our current Honda that still runs great and is nearly 20 years old. But then I get home and read a couple reviews and it says that year it notorious for tranny issues. So I feel like an ass. At least it was a 1 owner, and seems to be really well taken care of. So now the plan is to save up even more $$, sell it in about 6-9 months and upgrade again. I hate buying/selling cars.

missychrissy

04-18-2012, 06:09 AM

Bridget, I worry about you. How are things going with the mil? How many days left?

So I feel a *bit* like an ass today. Maybe I should even post this in ranting/venting or something, but I only like venting to you ladies, lol. Anyways, I found a van I liked (Honda Odyssey-which is what I've known I've wanted for a while now) and ended up buying it at a dealership last night. Dbf test drove it and said it was perfect. Paid cash. I drove it home, and love it. Runs super smooth and seems to be a billion times better than what we have currently. Only downside that I saw was high miles, but so does our current Honda that still runs great and is nearly 20 years old. But then I get home and read a couple reviews and it says that year it notorious for tranny issues. So I feel like an ass. At least it was a 1 owner, and seems to be really well taken care of. So now the plan is to save up even more $$, sell it in about 6-9 months and upgrade again. I hate buying/selling cars.

I wouldn't worry about the high miles honestly. Unless the tranny starts slipping, I wouldn't worry about that either. Perhaps the previous owner had it swapped out already? Check the fluid-it's not hard and you should be able to find directions online. It should be a bright orange (some might even call it red) color. If there's any white or dark oil looking stuff in it, you might want to start asking around about replacing it (although, that could indicate it only needs a tranny filter change). My guess is that yours was either fixed or it's a good one because it wouldn't have gotten to those high miles if it were a lemon.

:hugs: I think you're having a little anxiety because it's such a final thing to buy a car. Totally normal, especially when you can't afford car problems. I know exactly what that's like, please believe.

Inca

04-18-2012, 06:21 AM

I think that is a lot of the problem. General anxiety over a big purchase. I was feeling really good about the van until I got home and googled. Google is the devil. But, everything I've read says that is expensive to fix the tranny on the odyssey. I do hope previous owners fixed it. I read one place there was some recall where you could take it in and get something fixed on it to where it *shouldn't* need to replace the tranny or something like that. I need to dig a bit deeper to find the info. I think I need to get a carfax too, to see if they did indeed fix it. But the one time I got a carfax it had barely any info on it, so I'm a bit wary to spend the 35 now because I wasn't really satisfied with the service last time.

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 06:53 AM

Cosmosmom

04-18-2012, 06:54 AM

Bridget how old is she? I think sometimes older people just totally lose their filter. It seems like turning it back each time is a good idea. Oh do you think that I would put something in I thought was ugly? Oh do you REALLY think I would let my baby go hungry?
It would make a difference to me if I thought she was really trying to be a b*tch or if she was just one of those who run their mouths without thinking.

Liz, I would think that just because a certain year might be prone to a problem that not ALL in that year are prone to the problem. Like drugs....sometimes a side might be more common but certainly not everyone who takes that drug has that side effect. Just keep on saving because that is good no matter what. And hopefully it won't need to go into the car.

Inca

04-18-2012, 06:57 AM

This is the one I got for anyone wondering... http://www.lujackhonda.com/used/Honda/1999-Honda-Odyssey-Davenport-d28cf0020a0d064901d593b9701610a5.htm

daylilies

04-18-2012, 07:29 AM

He can't wear his work shirt and buy alcohol? Or he doesn't like to? I don't like to walk into a liquor store and buy anything with my kids with me. I feel judged. I want to be like, "Hey! I'm only going to have 2 glasses, okay!" lol

IDK, it's one of those "rules" that not everyone follows, but it makes him feel uncomfortable. I think it's kind of funny to walk into a liquor store with Josh. I get a lot of understanding looks. :laugh: I'm still waiting for him to throw a major fit in one so I can say "And this is why I drink!"

I had to tell you guys about this. Mira has been resistant to pooping in the potty. She went to the bathroom to pee, farted, then got upset 'cause she thought she had to poop, and asked for a diaper. I got one, but thought I'd distract her to see if she could poop without freaking out, and said 'Oh look, I see the trunk of an elephant sticking out your belly button'. She lifted up her shirt to look, I put my ear to her belly, made elephant noises, and said 'I hear the elephant!'. She looks at me with a serious look on her face, and says 'Mommy, there are no elephants in my bellybutton'. 'No?'. 'No. That's the monkey in my belly button. OOH! OOH! OOH!' and cracks up. Turns out, there are lots of things in her belly button, including seahorses and Elmo, just no elephants.

Cute!

Oye Bridget, you are a saint, I definitely would have had to say something by now. Or I would have been chugging an entire bottle of wine!

I am thisclose to losing it. DS has not slept more than an hour straight in weeks. I'm getting about 4 hours of broken sleep a night and I have to get up at 5am for work. I'm frickin exhausted. :truce: I'm at a loss about what to try (besides CIO or "sleep training"). This is the baby that STTN at like 4 weeks old.

I don't think "sleep training" is a bad idea. We did it for a long time with Josh.

So I feel a *bit* like an ass today. Maybe I should even post this in ranting/venting or something, but I only like venting to you ladies, lol. Anyways, I found a van I liked (Honda Odyssey-which is what I've known I've wanted for a while now) and ended up buying it at a dealership last night. Dbf test drove it and said it was perfect. Paid cash. I drove it home, and love it. Runs super smooth and seems to be a billion times better than what we have currently. Only downside that I saw was high miles, but so does our current Honda that still runs great and is nearly 20 years old. But then I get home and read a couple reviews and it says that year it notorious for tranny issues. So I feel like an ass. At least it was a 1 owner, and seems to be really well taken care of. So now the plan is to save up even more $$, sell it in about 6-9 months and upgrade again. I hate buying/selling cars.

I'm sorry, but I had to laugh that your car has tranny issues. Seriously though, I'm sorry that happened. I hope it turns out that the car you got is fine. You're right, google is the devil. You'll find a negative opinion on anything there.

We did a fun project at church last week with the kids where we cut pictures of grocery store items out of circulars and glued them to posterboard to make a map of a grocery store. I told Josh about it and he wants to do it too. It's a fun thing to incorporate a talk about healthy shopping, and how grocery stores are arranged.

Inca

04-18-2012, 07:39 AM

transvestite issues? :laugh:

missychrissy

04-18-2012, 07:41 AM

Ah, Liz, I hope the van turns out to be OK. We are having car drama at our house, too. I mentioned not long ago that DH got in to a small fender bender in his beloved car (the only car he's ever had in his life that he bought from new when he was 18). He's been going back and forth with his insurance about what to do about it (as the repair work is going to cost more than the car is monetarily worth). Today, he got a call from a demolition company asking when they could tow the car away as the insurance company had taken it upon themselves to arrange its demolition and were going to send DH a check. He nearly had a heart attack. He has to go back to them now to say he doesn't want his car destroyed and to see what they're going to do about having it repaired. I was a little excited thinking that maybe I'd get a VW Beetle finally if he got rid of his car, but I don't want to get a new car from him losing his beloved. That car will be with him til he's 64, I reckon!

If his car is paid off, why don't you guys get a VW anyway?

I'm sorry, but I had to laugh that your car has tranny issues. Seriously though, I'm sorry that happened. I hope it turns out that the car you got is fine. You're right, google is the devil. You'll find a negative opinion on anything there.

We did a fun project at church last week with the kids where we cut pictures of grocery store items out of circulars and glued them to posterboard to make a map of a grocery store. I told Josh about it and he wants to do it too. It's a fun thing to incorporate a talk about healthy shopping, and how grocery stores are arranged.

:wub: Josh!

And I agree-every single make and model has their 'weak' spot. Google will tell you all about it. You will not find a car that is 100% perfect in each and every component...and I'm talking about the expensive ones. My Suzi is supposed to be susceptible to engine siege, even with regular oil changes. I hope it doesn't happen, but if it does...well, I'll be having my brother find me another motor. :D

Cosmosmom

04-18-2012, 07:43 AM

See and here we buy alcohol at the grocery store! Very easy and I would totally buy it with a kid with me.

missychrissy

04-18-2012, 07:45 AM

Our grocery stores only sell beer and wine coolers. No liquor is allowed to be sold in one. Why, I don't know but it's worse in PA. You actually have to drive to what looks like a garage and drive into a bay. A guy will come out and ask what you want, take your money and bring the change and your alcohol to the car, then you drive out the other side. Kinda like a car wash...only, they don't wash your car. :P They do have liquor stores, but this is what people that just want a case of Busch go through.

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 07:46 AM

I'll probably eventually get my VW but only when I'm back working and both boys are in full-time school; it's just low down on the priority list right now to get a new car when we both have one each paid off. DH hates having car payments along with a mortgage. He doesn't like to borrow money on loans and stuff, so I'll wait a few more years til I get one.

missychrissy

04-18-2012, 07:46 AM

Personally, I never went into a liquor store until maybe 5 years ago? New Years Eve 2006/2007. I've since been in one a few times and I think Syd came with me but none of the other kids have.

missychrissy

04-18-2012, 07:47 AM

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 07:47 AM

They sell every imaginable kind of liquor in grocery stores here. Actually, it's one of the big debates that's always going on in the government here about how grocery stores make liquor too cheap and that's why there's an alcoholism problem in this country.

MashedUp

04-18-2012, 07:53 AM

You can buy liquor in the grocery stores here too. I buy it when my kids are with me all the time, but it's usually with a full cart of groceries, so it's not so obvious.

Suja

04-18-2012, 08:09 AM

I was a little excited thinking that maybe I'd get a VW Beetle finally

Don't do it. My SIL really, really wanted a Beetle, and got a red one. It was adorable as all get out, but probably spent more time in the shop than at their house. It rode terribly, something was constantly breaking, and they ended up getting rid of it because the maintenance was just not worth the cuteness.

Inca

04-18-2012, 08:35 AM

You can buy liquor in the grocery stores here too. I buy it when my kids are with me all the time, but it's usually with a full cart of groceries, so it's not so obvious.

Same here! I never go to the liquor store. Only the liquor store that is attached to the grocery store.

daylilies

04-18-2012, 08:38 AM

You can't even buy beer and wine coolers at the grocery store here :( Fortunately we live within a mile of about 5 liquor stores.

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 09:44 AM

Don't do it. My SIL really, really wanted a Beetle, and got a red one. It was adorable as all get out, but probably spent more time in the shop than at their house. It rode terribly, something was constantly breaking, and they ended up getting rid of it because the maintenance was just not worth the cuteness.

I'm going to pretend that I didn't see that, Suja. LOL. They're supposed to be bringing a new sportier 'manlier' model this year, so I'm waiting to see what that is like....then I might take a cheeky little test drive in one!

Inca

04-18-2012, 09:45 AM

OOH have you seen the new ones? I think they look awesome!

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 09:53 AM

I want this one!
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/04/2012-beetle.jpg

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 09:57 AM

If I ever do get one, it'll be white like this but as a convertible:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e8GFatH8Twk/Taw7Q07_XpI/AAAAAAAESRw/tCAI7vjFAwY/s800/2012-Volkswagen-Beetle-4691.jpg

Inca

04-18-2012, 10:01 AM

dbf had a yellow convertible in the old old beetle! Like... http://www.adsinusa.com/p/3743/3743q49511b.jpg

missychrissy

04-18-2012, 10:02 AM

:wub: Ash-too cute!! There's a lemon on every lot. I don't care what make/model it is. Life is short-get what you'll love & take care of it.

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 10:04 AM

Too right, Chrissy! :D

Liz, that car is awesome! DH would love to buy an old one and do it up; he's a motor head like that, but I can't see him ever having the time for that right now.

Cosmosmom

04-18-2012, 10:24 AM

I'm going to pretend that I didn't see that, Suja. LOL. They're supposed to be bringing a new sportier 'manlier' model this year, so I'm waiting to see what that is like....then I might take a cheeky little test drive in one!

I have seen them here but we both thought that the new one wasn't as cute as the old ones. :( My DH likes cute cars....he LOVES his PT Cruiser.

Cosmosmom

04-18-2012, 10:30 AM

I'm in the camp too of get what you want. I know many people think Dodge/Chrysler suck but I have one of each and really like both of them. OTH, I wouldn't touch a Toyota with a 10 ft pole (I don't think I would get get one as a rental) but know that they have their fans too.

This is what I plan on buying in the next year or so. http://www.dodge.com/hostc/bmo/CUD201205RTKH53G/2DD/colors.do

Bridget

04-18-2012, 12:06 PM

Liz I have a Honda Odysseuy (spelled wrong, I know) and I really like it.

I love the VW Bugs! I wanted a VW bus so bad when I was in college. My dad agreed to buy me used car within a certain price range and was even kind enough to come around and look at and test drive a few of them before he said, "How about a convertible?" lol. So that's when I got my pontiac sunbird drop-top. Oh I LOVED that car. Loved it.

Apparently dbf thinks I am being oversensitive and I just need to ignore his mom's comments that feel disprespectful to me. So I was venting to my dad this morning and I asked him if I should go ahead and give him and my brother the go-ahead to tell dbf all the things they don't say to him out of respect for me. We had a good laugh over that because that may change his tune right quick.

Smplyme89

04-18-2012, 12:56 PM

Oooh I like that Red Bug, cute!!!

daylilies

04-18-2012, 02:45 PM

I can't really join in the car admiration...I think those VW bugs are ridiculous looking. Sorry :P

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 02:48 PM

Booooooooooo, Kate! lol.....Cars are very individual to taste, aren't they?

Inca

04-18-2012, 02:54 PM

I like them. But like Bridget, I always wanted a Vw Van. Those are suhweeeeeeeeeeeeet! Now that is ONE vehicle if they put a new one out I'd find a way to get. (Maybe a couple years after the release though, too expensive to buy new)

daylilies

04-18-2012, 03:05 PM

I guess so. I honestly don't really like any of the cars people think are hot. Plus, I'm a short, overweight, frumpy mother and wife. A hot car isn't going to do anything for me. :laugh:

Ky'sMom

04-18-2012, 03:06 PM

LOL, Suja. That is so cute! It took Travis a few months between weeing and pooing in the potty. It seems like forever ago now, though. All those animals should help her push that poo out before too long. :)

Ah, Bridget. You are a saint for not making your MIL cry. She is being an a-s-s. I'd be inclined to take her aside and just say something like, "Can you stop with all the judgmental comments; they are upsetting me." Because what she's doing is upsetting. I know she's only there for a few days but each time she comes for a visit, she's going to keep at it unless you say something. (I think?)

I agree with the above regarding your MIL Bridget. You don't have to be mean about it. I did have to have this discussion with my MIL about 3 times before it sunk in. I always started off with "Dearest Mother in Law, you know I love you but I need you to stop....." fill in the blanks. I call my MIL Dearest Mother in Law to this day because I just love her so much (which I do, not kidding there, she is a wonderful woman, just very critical and semi-controlling if you let her but other than that she is great and I adore her and want to be like her when I grow up:-)

I'm in the camp too of get what you want. I know many people think Dodge/Chrysler suck but I have one of each and really like both of them. OTH, I wouldn't touch a Toyota with a 10 ft pole (I don't think I would get get one as a rental) but know that they have their fans too.

This is what I plan on buying in the next year or so. http://www.dodge.com/hostc/bmo/CUD201205RTKH53G/2DD/colors.do

Wanted to comment on this as well, since I have a Dodge Caravan and people do hate Dodge/Chrysler vehicles and the Honda Oddysey or the Toyota Sienna are always touted as being the best minivan. My family has always had Dodge Caravans or the Grand Caravan. They are known to have brake problems but since brakes are easy to fix, other than that, we really haven't had any issues with it other than a mechanic breaking my transmission, and why I understand your fear Liz as the tranny cost me $2K to fix. I still need to go and sue that mechanic for breaking my van to see if I can get my money back.

But I love my van. My mom had a Caravan for over 10 years and never had any issues with it. We always get the better models though with the highly rated engines. I have a 3.3L, there is another version of the engine that has bad reviews but mine is really good and even my new mechanic has told me that since I got my tranny re-built (I NEVER buy a used tranny since you don't know if they have issues and new ones costs too much IMO so I just get them re-built) my van should last for another 100K miles. It has about 178K on it right now and runs great and is a smooth ride.

Erin

Inca

04-18-2012, 03:09 PM

My grandpa worked for and retired from Chrysler so they hold a spot in my heart, lol. But generally speaking, I prefer Hondas and Toyotas. VW too, though I've never driven one. :laugh:

AmeriBrit

04-18-2012, 03:37 PM

Erin, your mileage made me smile. Dh has had his car for 13 years and it has 45,000 miles on it. Lol. That's an American vs British thing. I kind of laugh inside when people talk about distance here. Like, they'll say, I had to drive 10 miles to get to so and so like it's 100 miles away.

Cosmosmom

04-18-2012, 03:47 PM

So did my dad Liz....the plant in Kenosha most of my life. Probably why I have always pretty much had them.

And wow to the miles Erin! I have never had a car go that high. But we don't drive that much. Our 2002 Cruiser has under 50K and my Caliber has under 43K...he's a 2007. The Caliber is the one we will trade in for the minivan. We were planning on keeping Caliber until he fell apart but we will need the space of a minivan once we have the baby. As it is, it's going to be hard to get both dogs...Poogie rides in a kennel still, the litter box, our luggage, laptop, dogs food and all their supplies....plus us in the car when we go down to visit family next time.

demigraf

04-18-2012, 04:35 PM

SCUBJIA!

Hi, guys. I just wanted to drop in and say :hi:. I am buried in work again, and feeling a little downtrodden because I am doing something really hard and time-consuming - aka "this is going to take 150 dedicated hours... as in that's how long it'll take me if I had nothing else to do... which isn't the case because I'm actually working concurrently on at least 2 other projects of the same size. From the beginning, I told my lead that it was going to be this hard and take this long. And since it's ultimately his project and it's making him look behind schedule, he's stressed out. So today he tried the tactic of telling me that "others" are unhappy with me that it's taking so long. Typical BS from him, where he thinks he's motivating me by expressing - not his own criticism because he's too much of a wuss to speak for himself - but how nameless others have criticized me. He forgets that just last Friday he told me how he was the one silently panicking about the timelines HE committed us to. If people are unhappy with me because it's taking too long, it's because he ignored all my warnings about how long it was going to take and made unrealistic promises to people. So anyway, I'm just annoyed that I see him trying to "whip me" into finishing sooner by attempting to make me feel self-conscious about what other people might be saying about me. It really doesn't make the actual task any less complex, nor does it motivate me to try any harder. It just makes me think the guy is a weasel and a weenie.

OK. Thank you for letting me pop in and just vent for a second. I'll let you return back to your regularly scheduled programming.